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skhunted ◴[] No.41904004[source]
I’ve been teaching in higher education for 30 years and am soon retiring. I teach math. In every math course there is massive amounts of cheating on everything that is graded that is not proctored in a classroom setting. Locking down browsers and whatnot does not prevent cheating.

The only solution is to require face-to-face proctored exams and not allow students to use technology of any kind while taking the test. But any teacher doing this will end up with no students signing up for their class. The only solution I see is the Higher Learning Commission mandating this for all classes.

But even requiring in person proctored exams is not the full solution. Students are not used to doing the necessary work to learn. They are used to doing the necessary work to pass. And that work is increasingly cheating. It’s a clusterfuck. I have calculus students who don’t know how to work with fractions. If we did truly devise a system that prevents cheating we’ll see that a very high percentage of current college students are not ready to be truly college educated.

K-12 needs to be changed as well.

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1. com2kid ◴[] No.41908035[source]
> The only solution is to require face-to-face proctored exams and not allow students to use technology of any kind while taking the test. But any teacher doing this will end up with no students signing up for their class. The only solution I see is the Higher Learning Commission mandating this for all classes.

Just one generation ago this was the norm. The only differences between how exams were given in my math classes were what size of note paper was allowed.

In general students hated the few classes that tried to use online platforms for grading, the sites sucked so much that students preferred pen and paper.

Also, it is a math class! The only thing that is needed is arguably a calculator, a pencil, and some paper. What the hell kind of technology are students using in class?

> The only solution I see is the Higher Learning Commission mandating this for all classes.

Colleges used to all have tech requirements, the big debate was to allow calculators with CAS or not.

> If we did truly devise a system that prevents cheating we’ll see that a very high percentage of current college students are not ready to be truly college educated.

What the heck are students doing in college then? I was paying good $$$ to go to college, I was there because I wanted to learn. Why the hell would I pay thousands of dollars to go to class and then not learn anything in the class, that would be a huge waste of my time!