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lwhi ◴[21 Oct 24 08:16 UTC] No.41901852[source]▶
It is no longer effective to solely use a written essay to measure how deeply a student comprehends a subject.

AI is here to stay; new methods should be used to assess student performance.

I remember being told at school, that we weren't allowed to use calculators in exams. The line provided by teachers was that we could never rely on having a calculator when we need it most—obviously there's irony associated with having 'calculators' in our pockets 24/7 now.

We need to accept that the world has changed; I only hope that we get to decide how society responds to that change together .. rather than have it forced upon us.

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dambi0 ◴[21 Oct 24 09:05 UTC] No.41902094[source]▶
An essay written under examination conditions is fine. We don’t need new assessment techniques. We have known how to asses that a student and that student alone for centuries.
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jenscow ◴[21 Oct 24 09:35 UTC] No.41902282[source]▶
In most cases that only tests a students memory and handwriting ability, while under pressure in a limited time.

Can't perform any research, compare conflicting sources, or self-reflection.

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dambi0 ◴[21 Oct 24 09:38 UTC] No.41902303[source]▶
That depends on the questions. There are also open book exams. A viva is a type of exam so I don’t see they are incompatible with assessing research
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lupire ◴[21 Oct 24 13:02 UTC] No.41903716[source]▶
Not every class is STEM. Are you writing a 4000 word research paper sitting in class?
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1. dambi0 ◴[21 Oct 24 19:16 UTC] No.41907416{3}[source]▶
Some of my experience of exams comes from a history degree where around eighty to ninety percent of the overall grade came from final exams. I can only speak of my experience but I don’t think this is atypical depending on educational system.

One of the reasons I mentioned the viva was an example of how we can decouple production of some work from an assessment of quality and some reason to believe that some candidate is capable of the work without assistance.

It would be unreasonable to spend five or so years working under examination conditions. But that doesn’t mean we can’t subsequently examine a candidate to determine likely authorship amongst other things.