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Do AI detectors work? Students face false cheating accusations

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427 points JumpCrisscross | 1 comments | 20 Oct 24 17:26 UTC | HN request time: 0.214s | source
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lwhi ◴[21 Oct 24 08:16 UTC] No.41901852[source]▶
It is no longer effective to solely use a written essay to measure how deeply a student comprehends a subject.

AI is here to stay; new methods should be used to assess student performance.

I remember being told at school, that we weren't allowed to use calculators in exams. The line provided by teachers was that we could never rely on having a calculator when we need it most—obviously there's irony associated with having 'calculators' in our pockets 24/7 now.

We need to accept that the world has changed; I only hope that we get to decide how society responds to that change together .. rather than have it forced upon us.

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dambi0 ◴[21 Oct 24 09:05 UTC] No.41902094[source]▶
An essay written under examination conditions is fine. We don’t need new assessment techniques. We have known how to asses that a student and that student alone for centuries.
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VBprogrammer ◴[21 Oct 24 09:30 UTC] No.41902244[source]▶
My ability to write an essay under exam conditions is...poor. Thankfully there were less than a handful of essays I had to write as part of my undergraduate CS degree and I only remember one under exam conditions.

I think it's probably more concerning that spitting out the most generic mathematically formulaic bullshit on a subject is likely to get a decent mark. In that case what are we actually testing for?

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thechao ◴[21 Oct 24 12:02 UTC] No.41903205[source]▶
Conformance.
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bigfudge ◴[21 Oct 24 12:50 UTC] No.41903610[source]▶
Amusingly, willingness and capacity to conform to a system you are paying $30k a year for is a pretty good proxy for general intelligence. So maybe it's not that bad?!
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1. amanaplanacanal ◴[21 Oct 24 17:27 UTC] No.41906293[source]▶
It depends on what we think education is for. If the goal is to teach students, it's not so great. If the goal is to signal future employers the intelligence of the student, Maybe that's ok. But maybe the future employers should be paying the tuition instead of the student.