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Microsoft said it lost weeks of security logs for its customers' cloud products

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285 points alephnerd | 1 comments | 20 Oct 24 21:42 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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neya ◴[21 Oct 24 07:28 UTC] No.41901576[source]▶
If you use Azure in any realistic production environments, then it's on you. Even with $100k in free credits, they couldn't convince me to use it for more than a month. It is expensive, the interface is highly user unfriendly and most important of all, their products don't at all seem reliable for production workloads because of stuff like this. Sorry Microsoft, I think you can do much better.
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BodyCulture ◴[21 Oct 24 08:01 UTC] No.41901755[source]▶
I was laughing recently when at some place they started to install MS software on all Linux machines to integrate them into Azure. At that point you should just stop and think for a while about it. Didn’t you go for Linux because you wanted to have a reliable system?
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ratg13 ◴[21 Oct 24 09:34 UTC] No.41902267[source]▶
The MS security software (for better or worse), is better than any open-source linux solution, and can follow attackers as they move laterally through the network, instead of linux servers being a big black hole were adversaries can do as they please.

All security software from any vendor is going to have issues, and often you just have to go with whatever the company is running for the whole environment and not compromising security because of some jokes from the 90s

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Gud ◴[21 Oct 24 11:50 UTC] No.41903119[source]▶
Maybe it looks like a black hole to you - but there are open source operating systems with far better security practices than anything that came out of Redmond.
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ratg13 ◴[21 Oct 24 12:42 UTC] No.41903551[source]▶
Yes, everything works better in a vaccum. You're not the first person to notice this.

The point is, that if your organization has chosen an enterprise security platform, you don't make exceptions because of ideology.

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BodyCulture ◴[21 Oct 24 12:50 UTC] No.41903607[source]▶
The ideology here is „enterprise security platform“. This is marketing brainwash.
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ratg13 ◴[21 Oct 24 16:05 UTC] No.41905572[source]▶
At the moment I can trace every action of every user on every machine, all from one platform that alerts me if anything abnormal happens.

As an administrator of around 10,000 servers and devices, I have never had this ability before.

I am sure there are better products out there, but this is what the company purchased, and the visibility it has given us into our organization has been a game changer for us.

I apologize for not hating it just because it is Microsoft.

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1. eitally ◴[21 Oct 24 16:35 UTC] No.41905840{3}[source]▶
Arguably, I'm not as concerned about "every action of every user on every machine" as I am the exceptions, and the usability issues the aforementioned "security platform" causes in terms of end user efficiency are probably not offset by the perceived security gains from your POV.

Fwiw, for as much rightful criticism as Google receives for things like killing consumer products and behaving badly with user data, its internal IT runs better than -- in my opinion as an ex-employee -- any other large enterprise in the world. And it's secure.