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hombre_fatal ◴[] No.41904715[source]
I don't understand most of the comments here.

I couldn't cheat in high school because we couldn't use our phones during class. Not for worksheets nor quizzes and especially not exams whether they be multiple choice, oral, or essays.

Yet the top threads here act like we need a whole refactor of schooling, many people suggesting we rely on viva voce exams and proctored exams. What exactly do you think that's solving over a simple classroom scantron test where the teacher ensures people aren't on their phones?

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arnaudsm ◴[] No.41905031[source]
I've seen hundred of college students successfully cheat with mobile phones in class.
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lynndotpy ◴[] No.41905235[source]
As a TA, I've seen graduate students succeed with answers blatantly copied from the internet (i.e. screenshots of the answer, rote copied answers, etc), and then I was asked to make a calculation to make sure the points reduction would not impact their final grade.

This was before generative AI became so commonplace, and I got the impression this is super common place. It was a really disillusioning moment for me.

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1. stanford_labrat ◴[] No.41905811{3}[source]
Seeing my fellow grad students cheat, then brag in the public student lounge to multiple people about having the highest score on the exam by “oh I didn’t even understand that question I just copied the answer key and I still got the highest score”, broke something in me.

Our institutions are failing us, and I have never been more disillusioned.