Egypt declared malaria-free after 100-year effort

On the north shore of the Mediterranean sea Italy got malaria free by removing many swamps and flooded lowlands, quinine and eventually by using DDT. It was a very long effort, more that one century long. Details at https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3340992/

How dare they? Mosquitoes are a vital part of the ecosystems. And they should restore the swamps too. Now, that DDT perversion, for that alone they deserve a second flood.

Sarcasm aside, I love swamps and I hate mosquitoes, other bugs and crocodiles because they don't let me enjoy the swamp. I also don't like cities nor agriculture for the same reason. But I like people and people being happy.

Humanism and environmentalism are at odds more often than they are not.

> Humanism and environmentalism are at odds more often than they are not.

It gets less surprising when people realize that nature is red in tooth and claw, an uncaring shithole we're evolutionary conditioned to find pretty - at least the parts we see. Beautiful meadows and happy animals and careless people are just propaganda - in reality, the people are sick and busy with back-breaking work, and animals are all on the verge of starvation, and that doesn't even touch the microbiological scale. Ecological balance is achieved by means that, when applied to balance between humans, we'd call unending war of attrition.

Humanism and environmentalism are at odds because nature doesn't care about humans anymore than it cares about anything else. Brutal death and constant suffering are hallmarks of nature.

Did anyone besides you say these things?

I understand the sentiment behind your question (lashing back in hurt), but not your reasoning. What is it? Do you believe that people can live prosperous lives in harmony with nature, and thus what you perceive as cynicism offends you? Or, do you agree with me but you think that it's something better silenced in polite company? Or something else entirely? Do you like the mosquitoes and the crocodiles, or do you believe that it's unfair people have to live near them? The mosquito is the Great Killer, the animal that kills most people, even above and beyond other people. I like swamps though, they are beautiful. And I like the happy careless shoppers and their giggles in huge malls in huge metropolis, but I know the terrible cost it has to our nature. And I resent the contradiction dearly.

In any case, I can't elaborate on the things I say without understanding what exactly you take issue with.

Do you know of anyone who says these things? Any evidence?

Your guesses at my emotional state aren't relevant.