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Do AI detectors work? Students face false cheating accusations

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lwhi ◴[21 Oct 24 08:16 UTC] No.41901852[source]▶
It is no longer effective to solely use a written essay to measure how deeply a student comprehends a subject.

AI is here to stay; new methods should be used to assess student performance.

I remember being told at school, that we weren't allowed to use calculators in exams. The line provided by teachers was that we could never rely on having a calculator when we need it most—obviously there's irony associated with having 'calculators' in our pockets 24/7 now.

We need to accept that the world has changed; I only hope that we get to decide how society responds to that change together .. rather than have it forced upon us.

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lm28469 ◴[21 Oct 24 11:11 UTC] No.41902892[source]▶
In France my essays were written in class, no phones, no book, just your brain, a sheet a paper and a pen. That's still 100% doable today
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junaru ◴[21 Oct 24 11:30 UTC] No.41902992[source]▶
It even came with handwriting built in as authentication mechanism! AI detectors hate this secret!

On a more serious note - US removed cursive from their curriculum almost two decades ago - something i cant wrap my head around as cursive is something the rest of the world(?) uses starting in middle school and onwards through the whole adult life.

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1. tomjen3 ◴[21 Oct 24 13:53 UTC] No.41904178{3}[source]▶
Dane here. We don't write things in cursive. Sure we were thought cursive in school (my only remedial class! What a waste of time), but we write on computers. Very occasionally we might need to write up a sign or something.

I did nearly all my exams on a computer.

At one point the best writing tool was the fountain pen. It was a great invention and it had an appropriate script: cursive, which was the natural thing to do given how the ink flowed.

However kids are messy and you really want them to use pencils because they don't have flowing ink. The reason for cursive in the first place was the flowing ink, so when we switched away from flowing ink, there was no reason to write in cursive.

Except of course to waste the only resource everybody agrees is okay to waste: kids time.