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I feel like it was inevitable, with the recent buzz around NotebookLM. I'm just surprised that it hasn't been done yet.
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Guest9081239812 ◴[] No.41901331[source]
Lots of positive feedback here, but after a quick listen, I'm not a fan. To summarize my thoughts...

1. The experience just feels too sluggish. For example, I opened the HN homepage, skimmed all of the headlines, read the comments on the top post, and it probably took about 30 seconds. I was done, feeling like I got all the information from HN that I needed, with the intention of checking for new posts later in the day. This tool took an entire minute to brief me about a single post.

2. It's not very practical. Usually 1 or 2 posts catch my attention on the HN homepage each day. This tool is most likely going to give me information about the wrong posts. You could improve this with some type of algorithm that learns what information I listen to and what I skip, but it's not ideal. Or, perhaps I could click the headlines I'm interested in, and a custom audio summary is generated.

3. Lastly, I think it removes the human experience of HN. I like to read exactly what people are posting. Everyone is unique, and it's interesting to see how people interact, along with their choice of words and tone. Erasing all of that and listening to a robotic summary just sucks the soul straight out of the community. It reduces the connection to the people here, which I think is the best aspect of the site.

Thanks for sharing though, it's interesting to see this idea brought to fruition.

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highwaylights ◴[] No.41901664[source]
I think it’s a case of this not fitting your use case.

It wouldn’t replace reading the front page for me but I could really see it replacing a podcast on my morning walk. Especially given the absence of news spin or adverts. I’ll definitely be giving it a try tomorrow.

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1. afavour ◴[] No.41903251[source]
I don’t want to overindex this point because at the end of the day this is just a fun hack project… but I do think it’s worth considering the behaviors our work encourages.

Much like I think the 24 hour news cycle is detrimental to just about everything, an hourly HN summary strikes me as excessive. No one needs that much HN in their lives. But as you say, a daily summary you listen to the place of a podcast? That feels like the right fit.

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2. bloomingkales ◴[] No.41903752[source]
Depends. There’s no such thing as too much news during ww2 or Industrial Revolution.

This is news about how news as we know it is going away, and there’s more news on that coming 24/7. And that’s just the news on the news.

Idea for OP:

If you treat an HN post and it’s comments as a hivemind, you could do something like ‘Interview with the Hivemind: (insert post topic)”, have the AI ask interview questions where the hivemind can respond from the entire thread. This is to get any post into some kind of known podcast format.

If you intersperse talk about Big Foot throughout that interview for no good reason, you could become the #1 podcast in the world.

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3. wholinator2 ◴[] No.41908363[source]
What do you mean there's no such thing as too much news about war or capitalism (my interpretation of ww2 and industrial revolution)? I can't imagine your saying that interspersing your entire life with hourly updates on the deaths of millions of people is a... good? healthy? survivable thing? What about every 15 minutes? What about every second of every day? "No such thing" is certainly a strong phrase.

I can certainly say that consumption of news above around 1-2 hours a day in myself and everyone I've had the pleasure to discuss this with is an increasingly bad thing. Especially war! If you spend all of your time just consuming news about things when do you have time to do things like live a fulfilling life or enjoy peaceful human existence. Continuous news is the opposite of peace.

Maybe you're saying in general rather than in one person's life but i'd counter that a mass amount of news in general _is directly_ a mass amount of news in a mass amount of people's lives. Why would there be tons and tons of news unless people were actively consuming more and more of it?

How many hours a day do you spend reading current events and news? Why don't you spend more? Your answer to that question is my rebuttal

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4. bloomingkales ◴[] No.41909882{3}[source]
I say it because at any point either of those two things could have shown up at your front door (as it was happening).

In this case, yeah, CNN may give you AI synthetic news sooner rather than later to preempt the inevitable.

I’m not really commenting on whether it’s good or bad really. This may be the last hours of how we’ve all been getting news. Worth watching I think.