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lwhi ◴[] No.41901852[source]
It is no longer effective to solely use a written essay to measure how deeply a student comprehends a subject.

AI is here to stay; new methods should be used to assess student performance.

I remember being told at school, that we weren't allowed to use calculators in exams. The line provided by teachers was that we could never rely on having a calculator when we need it most—obviously there's irony associated with having 'calculators' in our pockets 24/7 now.

We need to accept that the world has changed; I only hope that we get to decide how society responds to that change together .. rather than have it forced upon us.

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pjc50 ◴[] No.41902041[source]
> I only hope that we get to decide how society responds to that change together .. rather than have it forced upon us.

That basically never happens and the outcome is the result of some sort of struggle. Usually just a peaceful one in the courts and legislatures and markets, but a struggle nonetheless.

> new methods should be used to assess student performance.

Such as? We need an answer now because students are being assessed now.

Return to the old "viva voce" exam? Still used for PhDs. But that doesn't scale at all. Perhaps we're going to have to accept that and aggressively ration higher education by the limited amount of time available for human-to-human evaluations.

Personally I think all this is unpredictable and destabilizing. If the AI advocates are right, which I don't think they are, they're going to eradicate most of the white collar jobs and academic specialties for which those people are being trained and evaluated.

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tomjen3 ◴[] No.41902449[source]
Simple: you still write an essay and you may use ai to do so. Then you throw the essay out and go and talk with the teacher about it. If you can answer intelligently it’s because you know the stuff and if not then you don’t.
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1. bearjaws ◴[] No.41902689[source]
It's simple, just hire 4x as many teachers so they can spend time talking to and quizzing students!
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2. prepend ◴[] No.41903093[source]
I think it’s a good exception case for the 1% of false positives.
3. lupire ◴[] No.41903693[source]
Yes, it is simple. This already happens for AP exam grading, for example. Seasonal temporary graders.

Happens in tax filing too.

4. PeterisP ◴[] No.41908750[source]
Such an increase can actually be quite feasible; quadrupling the labor spent on final examination would be perhaps a 10% increase for the total labor spent on preparing and teaching a university course, and at university level (unlike earlier schooling) we don't really have a shortage of educators, quite the opposite.