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Do AI detectors work? Students face false cheating accusations

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427 points JumpCrisscross | 6 comments | 20 Oct 24 17:26 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source | bottom
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jmugan ◴[20 Oct 24 18:47 UTC] No.41897583[source]▶
My daughter was accused of turning in an essay written by AI because the school software at her online school said so. Her mom watched her write the essay. I thought it was common knowledge that it was impossible to tell whether text was generated by AI. Evidently, the software vendors are either ignorant or are lying, and school administrators are believing them.
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add-sub-mul-div ◴[20 Oct 24 19:42 UTC] No.41897958[source]▶
Imagine how little common knowledge there will be one or two generations down the road after people decide they no longer need general thinking skills, just as they've already decided calculators free them from having to care about arithmetic skills.
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arkh ◴[21 Oct 24 06:47 UTC] No.41901342[source]▶
We don't learn directions now: we use GPS.

We don't do calculations: computers do it for us.

We don't accumulate knowledge: we trust Google to give us the information when needed.

Everything in a small package everyone can wear all day long. We're at the second step of transhumanism.

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hyperbrainer ◴[21 Oct 24 07:35 UTC] No.41901627[source]▶
At least the first 2 are far more accurate than humans ever could be. The third, i.e. trusting others to vet and find the correct information, is the problem.
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1. hhh ◴[21 Oct 24 08:08 UTC] No.41901795[source]▶
Why? We've done it for ages, most trust in Wikipedia, and before most trusted in encyclopedias. Books written by others have been used forever. We just shift where we place the trust over time.
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2. hyperbrainer ◴[21 Oct 24 08:53 UTC] No.41902032[source]▶
Agreed, but google hardly gives you those results. Sponsored Ads and AI generated seo crap is hardly an encylopedia.
3. ClumsyPilot ◴[21 Oct 24 08:59 UTC] No.41902063[source]▶
I just googled ‘do I need a license to drive a power boat in UK’

I got AI answer saying ‘no’, but actually you do.

If I use a calculator it will be correct. If I open encyclopaedia it will mostly be correct, because someone with a brain did at least 5 minutes of thining.

We are not talking about some minor detail, AI makes colossal errors with great confidence and conviction.

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4. fullstackchris ◴[21 Oct 24 10:41 UTC] No.41902705[source]▶
But you're comparing apples to oranges anyway... a mathematical problem is vastly different than a q&a problem - which of course involves language which is anyway a lossy form of communication.
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5. pennaMan ◴[21 Oct 24 10:54 UTC] No.41902778[source]▶
Try that query in perplexity :) Spoilers: it gets it right and explains the nuances.
6. hyperbrainer ◴[21 Oct 24 11:57 UTC] No.41903172{3}[source]▶
that is the point. google is not Multivac