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elintknower ◴[] No.41873803[source]
That took long enough. Insane that the gov was entirely silent after this week's starship launch as well...

Even though I'm not an elon fan, pretending to not notice for political reasons (not to mention the insane halving of launches at Vandenberg AFB) is completely insane and damaging to our country.

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thot_experiment ◴[] No.41876196[source]
I wish I had any idea on how to deal with the Elon situation. I genuinely believe SpaceX wouldn't be achieving nearly what it is without him, but he's obviously also going way off the deep end these days and it's uncomfortable to watch one man with that much power getting increasingly unhinged.

It's something I constantly wonder about, I strongly believe we should be taxing the absolute shit out of people and working hard to flatten society, but I also worry that we need insane people in power sometimes to get stuff done. Starship (hell, even F9) is an astonishing achievement and there's zero chance that innovation would be possible anywhere except SpaceX or another entity with very strong leadership (Valve or Steve Jobs' Apple if they made rockets)

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Mistletoe ◴[] No.41889918[source]
https://www.reuters.com/technology/spacex-employees-denounce...

https://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-employees-elon-musk-f...

>SpaceX employees say they are relieved Elon Musk is focused on Twitter because there is a calmer work environment at the rocket company

He sounds like that kind of boss we have all had where you actively avoid interacting with him because his ideas will be stupid and get your project off track. I think SpaceX succeeds despite having to deal with current Elon.

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seizethecheese ◴[] No.41890253[source]
Having read the Isaacson biography, Elon’s management style is essentially to be hands off then show up in “surges” of extreme work. It makes sense that most people would be happy when surges end.

There’s also essentially zero chance his organizations succeed in spite of him. This is just wishful ignorance.

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larkost ◴[] No.41891980[source]
What evidence do you offer that there is no chance of SpaceX succeeding in spite of Elon Musk? I really don't have enough detailed knowledge about his actual contributions to the various companies he runs.

But given the sheer number of projects at the companies he runs I don't find it hard to believe that he is largely not responsible for the technical successes. Again, I have no evidence for it, but it would not be hard to believe. Do you have anything other than faith for that statement?

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dotnet00 ◴[] No.41892207[source]
The fact that none of the other space startups prior to SpaceX, which had access to more resources, succeeded? Same goes with Tesla. You have to really stretch believability to argue that the one factor in common between two companies which broke into extremely hard to break into industries and ushered in paradigm shifts, happened to do so for no reason related to that common factor, let alone arguing that they did so in-spite of that common factor.

We also have pretty detailed books on the history of SpaceX, written from employee interviews, which also indicate that Musk is fairly hands on. There's also this tweet from the designer of the Merlin rocket engine that is usually thrown around when these kinds of claims are made: https://old.reddit.com/r/SpaceXMasterrace/comments/15am9pl/t...

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sealeck ◴[] No.41893707{3}[source]
> Same goes with Tesla.

Isn't BYD a success?

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kortilla ◴[] No.41893793{4}[source]
Yes, 15 years later
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1. sealeck ◴[] No.41901739{5}[source]
BYD was founded in 1995 and BYD Auto was founded in January 2003 (Tesla in July 2023).