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trompetenaccoun ◴[] No.41895988[source]
We need archives built on decentralized storage. Don't get me wrong, I really like and support the work Internet Archive is doing, but preserving history is too important to entrust it solely to singular entities, which means singular points of failure.
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jdiff ◴[] No.41896411[source]
This seems to get brought at least once in the comments for every one of these articles that pops up.

The IA has tried distributing their stores, but nowhere near enough people actually put their storage where their mouths are.

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WarOnPrivacy ◴[] No.41897206[source]
> nowhere near enough people actually put their storage where their mouths are.

Typically because most people who have the upload, don't know that they can. And if they come to the notion on their own, they won't know how.

If they put the notion to a search engine, the keywords they come up with probably don't return the needed ELI5 page.

As in: How do I [?] for the Internet Archive?, most folks won't know what [?] needs to be.

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TZubiri ◴[] No.41897342[source]
This is literally torrents. Just give up
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briandear ◴[] No.41897746[source]
The problem with torrents is they have a bad reputation since people use it to steal and redistribute other people’s content without their consent.
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thwarted ◴[] No.41898817[source]
The problem with file transfer is they have a bad reputation since people use it to [insert illegal or immoral activity here].

Then rename it from "torrent" to something else.

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TZubiri ◴[] No.41899049[source]
I'm not sure what the argumentative line is here. But file uploading and downloading needs to have accountability for hosting, which p2p obscures.

The bad reputation is inherent to the tech, not a random quirk.

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1. komali2 ◴[] No.41900495[source]
It doesn't really, you can host a server off a raw IP.

Downloading from example.com is just peer to peer with someone big. There's lots of hosting providers and DNS providers that are happy to host illegal-in-some-places content.

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2. TZubiri ◴[] No.41904327[source]
Incorrect.

The protocols for downloading from example.com are assymettrical client server architectures, not symmetrical decentralized peer to peer.