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The IPv6 Transition

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215 points todsacerdoti | 1 comments | 20 Oct 24 05:54 UTC | HN request time: 0.203s | source
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Kelteseth ◴[20 Oct 24 06:45 UTC] No.41893424[source]▶
I've mentioned this previously. Without government-mandated standards, implementation could take years. We apply this approach to numerous areas; why should IP be an exception?
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robocat ◴[20 Oct 24 07:42 UTC] No.41893675[source]▶
A world of being told what to do was not the "dream" of freedom for the internet.

If you want the government to mandate standards, vote with your feet and move to China where it has been mandated.

I thought the point of the article is that perhaps IPv6 is ultimately unnecessary: worse is better?

Why are we engineers so attracted to authoritarianism? The idea of just telling everyone to use the new version seems attractive to me too. Then again I often deeply admire practical engineering compromises. (edited: clarified)

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Kelteseth ◴[20 Oct 24 08:12 UTC] No.41893792[source]▶
Agreeing on a common standard is not authoritarianism.
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kortilla ◴[20 Oct 24 19:46 UTC] No.41897977[source]▶
We have agreed on a common standard. It’s IPv6.

Forcing people to use it is authoritarianism.

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Kelteseth ◴[20 Oct 24 20:08 UTC] No.41898137[source]▶
You are also forced to use a seat belt. Calling it authoritarianism when we want to enforce a standard is absurd.
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1. pessimizer ◴[21 Oct 24 00:25 UTC] No.41899647[source]▶
Being forced to use a seat belt isn't a standard, it's actually authoritarianism. And largely used as a pretense to pull people over without probable cause, rather than for any other purpose. Mandating that manufacturers have seatbelts in cars is the regulation of commerce. Mandating that ISPs provide ip6 is also the regulation of commerce. Ip6 itself is a standard.

A standard is something that people have to adhere to in order to measure things in a portable way, or for general interop. It's not anything that one is told to do by a government.