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tomcam ◴[] No.41868652[source]
I read it all the way through once, but may have a missed something. Am I to understand that because he has (extremely) objectionable private views that he should be booted out of the organization he started? It seems like there is no evidence of untoward behavior, just a bunch of gross opinions?

If that’s the case, I’m completely against ejecting him simply because he publishes nasty thoughts. I say this as a guy who lived through many kinds of abuse as a child. My opinions and almost everything are the exact opposite of his. I don’t like most of his opinions, I don’t like his humor, I disagree with most of his politics, and dealing with him in person is exceptionally unpleasant.

But the FSF is an American organization, and in America we have something close to free speech. If he’s being kicked out for expressing sick thoughts on his personal website, but not in his capacity as a member of the foundation, I believe they are making a grave and immoral mistake. They have every right to do it, but I don’t agree with taking such action.

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deepl_derber ◴[] No.41892745[source]
> It seems like there is no evidence of untoward behavior, just a bunch of gross opinions?

I don't think you actually read it then, because a significant portion of it is about his untoward behavior (as a boss, to random women at conferences, as a Voting Member, etc.)

> But the FSF is an American organization, and in America we have something close to free speech.

Free speech has absolutely nothing to do with this (as you note, the foundation has every right to get rid of him because of his abhorrent views). You don't generally want advocates for child sex abuse representing your foundation, regardless of what sort of foundation it is.

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1. tomcam ◴[] No.41899471[source]
I did in fact miss the Credible allegations of sexual misconduct section at https://stallman-report.org/#credible-allegations-of-sexual-.... Thanks for correcting me.
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2. mikrotikker ◴[] No.41900010[source]
Giving a card to a woman asking her out is sexual misconduct?
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3. tomcam ◴[] No.41900389[source]
I’m thinking more this:

> We have several uncorroborated testimonies of women, including minors, being overtly sexualized during this routine, some without consent. In the course of our research we discovered that one of these routines was recorded, in which Stallman brings a 13 year-old girl on stage and makes sexually suggestive remarks about her in front of a crowd at FKFT 2008 in Barcelona.

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4. mikrotikker ◴[] No.41900879{3}[source]
> uncorroborated testimonies

> some without consent

> In the course of our research we discovered that one of these routines was recorded

Far out if they reach any harder they'll need a ladder and a safety harness!