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555 Timer Circuits

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doe_eyes ◴[] No.41891311[source]
In some respects, it's a testament to how much the world of electronics has changed over the past ~25 years. It used to be that 555 was this Swiss-army-knife IC that you had to learn about. Multiple people published entire books about it!

Today, it's essentially obsolete. You're quite unlikely to find it in any competently-done commercial designs. Every analog trick you can do with it can be done more cheaply, more reliably, with better power efficiency, and with fewer external components using a modern MCU.

It's not that analog is dead, but it's solving different problems now. Including how to keep ultra-high-speed digital signals usable within the footprint of a PCB - which wasn't that much of a consideration in the golden days of the 555.

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lightedman ◴[] No.41892421[source]
"You're quite unlikely to find it in any competently-done commercial designs."

You'll find them in tons of commercial designs - your modern headlights (which I manufacture) and off-road lights use them in droves. Short-timed lighting like automatic UVC sterilization lighting and such also still relies heavily upon a 555 timer just to act as the on/off switch for the power driver pushing the LEDs.

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amluto ◴[] No.41895630[source]
Now I’m curious: what is the role of the 555 timer in a headlight?

I have a bit of a pet peeve about car lights (usually exterior lights that aren’t the headlights) that are visibly pulsed. They can be distracting. I think they should all be designed to operate either at silly frequencies that are genuinely undetectable by human eyes (30kHz?) or to genuinely operate at DC.

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lightedman ◴[] No.41897296{3}[source]
"what is the role of the 555 timer in a headlight?"

Newer headlights use the 555 timer as a quick comparator to turn off the headlight when the corresponding turn signal is activated, and control the turn signal simultaneously.

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1. amluto ◴[] No.41897508{4}[source]
Huh, I always imagined that newer cars would have a single CAN link to an ECU [0] in back, and that ECU would control all the lights near it. 555 timers may be cheap and robust, but monster wiring harnesses are not so cheap.

[0] Why do cars have special names for microcontrollers?

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2. lightedman ◴[] No.41898608[source]
"but monster wiring harnesses are not so cheap."

They aren't needed when the lighting is LED. The wiring harnesses going to more modern headlights are quite thin.

"I always imagined that newer cars would have a single CAN link to an ECU [0] in back, and that ECU would control all the lights near it."

They do but some are moving away because of the total lack of security and ability to compromise the CAN bus through the headlights to steal vehicles - read https://www.autoblog.com/news/vehicle-headlight-can-bus-inje... for what's going on there. They're too cheap to actually spend the money on real hardening so they're moving back to pure hardware control in many cases.