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trompetenaccoun ◴[] No.41895988[source]
We need archives built on decentralized storage. Don't get me wrong, I really like and support the work Internet Archive is doing, but preserving history is too important to entrust it solely to singular entities, which means singular points of failure.
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jdiff ◴[] No.41896411[source]
This seems to get brought at least once in the comments for every one of these articles that pops up.

The IA has tried distributing their stores, but nowhere near enough people actually put their storage where their mouths are.

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1. creer ◴[] No.41897450[source]
And it's guaranteed not to happen if the efforts don't continue.
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2. acdha ◴[] No.41898545[source]
You could say the same thing about perpetual motion. Being realistic about why past efforts have failed is key to doing better in the future: for example, people won’t mirror content which could get them in trouble and most people want to feel some kind of benefit or thanks. People should be thinking about how to change dynamics like those rather than burning out volunteers trying more ideas which don’t change the underlying game.
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3. creer ◴[] No.41900777[source]
There are certainly research questions and cost questions and practicality and subsetting and whatnot. Addressed by some ideas and not by others.

What there isn't is a currently maintained and advertised client and plan. That I can find. Clunky or not, incomplete or not.

There are other systems that have a rough plan for duplication and local copy and backup. You can easily contribute to them, run them, or make local copies. But not IA. (I mean you can try and cook up your own duplication method. And you can use a personal solution to mirror locally everything you visit and such.) No duplication or backup client or plan. No sister mirrored institution that you might fund. Nothing.