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1. mensetmanusman ◴[] No.41897232[source]
My daughter’s 7th grade work is 80% flagged as AI. She is a very good writer, it’s interesting to see how poorly this will go.

Obviously we will go back to in class writing.

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2. ipaddr ◴[] No.41897329[source]
She should run it through ai to rewrite in a way so another ai doesn't detect it was written by ai.
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3. unyttigfjelltol ◴[] No.41897453[source]
The article demonstrates that good, simple prose is being flagged as AI-generated. Reminds me of a misguided junior high English teacher that half-heartedly claimed I was a plagiarist for including the word "masterfully" in an essay, when she knew I was too stupid to use a word like that. These tools are industrializing that attitude and rolling it to teachers that otherwise wouldn't feel that way.
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4. minitoar ◴[] No.41900916[source]
Right, I thought this was just an arms race for tools that can generate output to fool other tools.
5. tdeck ◴[] No.41900959[source]
> Obviously we will go back to in class writing.

That would be a pretty sad outcome. In my high school we did both in-class essays and homework essays. The former were always more poorly developed and more more poorly written. IMO students still deserve practice doing something that takes more than 45 minutes.

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6. testfoobar ◴[] No.41901161[source]
I'd encourage you to examine the grading policies of the high schools in your area.

What may seem obvious based on earlier-era measures of student comprehension and success is not the case in many schools anymore.

Look up evidence based grading, equitable grading, test retake policies, etc.

7. testfoobar ◴[] No.41901166[source]
I've heard some students are concerned that any text submitted to an AI-detector is automatically added to training sets and therefore will eventually will be flagged as AI.
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8. itronitron ◴[] No.41901373{3}[source]
Well, that is how AI works.
9. ordu ◴[] No.41903223[source]
> she knew I was too stupid to use a word like that.

Oh... It is the story of my school math education. I always got bad marks, because I was "too stupid to come up with this particular solution to the problem". I didn't thought it was really unfair, because I thought myself to be lazy, and I looked for such solutions to math problems that would minimize my work. Oftentimes I ignored textbook ways to solve problems and used my own. I believed that it was a cheating, so naturally I got worse marks, but I put up with that, because I was lazy to do it in more complex way from a textbook.

10. mensetmanusman ◴[] No.41904268[source]
Could be a Saturday event in a comfortable setting. People can still practice, but then will have to somehow prove they aren’t AI :)