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US probes Tesla's Full Self-Driving software after fatal crash

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410 points jjulius | 2 comments | 18 Oct 24 16:01 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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lopkeny12ko ◴[20 Oct 24 17:08 UTC] No.41896841[source]▶
> NHTSA said it was opening the inquiry after four reports of crashes where FSD was engaged during reduced roadway visibility like sun glare, fog, or airborne dust. A pedestrian was killed in Rimrock, Arizona, in November 2023 after being struck by a 2021 Tesla Model Y, NHTSA said.

This is going to be another extremely biased investigation.

1. A 2021 Model Y is not on HW4.

2. FSD in November 2023 is not FSD 12.5, the current version. Any assessment of FSD on such outdated software is not going to be representative of the current experience.

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ra7 ◴[20 Oct 24 17:18 UTC] No.41896915[source]▶
The perfect setup. By the time an incident in the “current” software is investigated, it will be outdated. All Tesla has to do is a rev a software version and ignore all incidents that occurred prior to it.
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1. lopkeny12ko ◴[20 Oct 24 17:32 UTC] No.41897020[source]▶
You are welcome to conjure whatever conspiracy theories you like but the reality is FSD 12.5 is exponentially better than previous versions. Don't just take it from me, this is what all Tesla owners are saying too.
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2. ra7 ◴[21 Oct 24 13:15 UTC] No.41903837[source]▶
I’m pointing out the absurdity in your comment. There can’t be real time investigations when software is designed to be updated over time.

As far FSD 12.5’s supposed exponential improvement, its disengagement rate is still in the low double digits:

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2024/09/tesla-full-self-driving...

https://teslafsdtracker.com/