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TheAlchemist ◴[] No.41893777[source]
Tesla released a promotional video in 2016 saying that with FSD a human driver is not necessary and that "The person in the driver's seat is only there for legal reasons". The video was staged as we've learned in 2022.

2016 folks... Even with today's FSD which is several orders of magnitude better than the one in the video, you would still probably have a serious accident within a week (and I'm being generous here) if you didn't seat in the driver's seat.

How Trevor Milton got sentenced for fraud and the people responsible for this were not is a mystery to me.

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sschueller[dead post] ◴[] No.41894877[source]
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nemo44x ◴[] No.41895131[source]
He’s not doing anything activists haven’t done for years to get out the vote. In college famous rock and hip hop groups would come on campus to play shows that had voter registration tables upon entry and lots of messaging about who to vote for and then being endlessly recruited to volunteer/phone bank/canvas for some group that was supporting the event.

Activism cuts both ways.

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matwood ◴[] No.41895436[source]
Direct payments do seem to be illegal in a way that having a rally or concert or canvassing are not.

https://electionlawblog.org/?p=146397

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nemo44x ◴[] No.41895670[source]
You’re not obligated to do anything like vote or vote a certain way. Money is speech and it’s an advertisement.

That’s just some random blog. I’m sure Musks’s lawyers understand what they’re doing.

Frankly I find it inspiring he cares enough about our democracy to encourage people to participate in it at great expense of his own. You love to see innovation in turning out voters who may not otherwise have their voices heard.

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shadowfacts ◴[] No.41895774[source]
It's not a random blog making some conjectures, Rick Hasen is a law professor who is an expert in this area and, moreover, he cites specifics statutes and DOJ information that's not all that ambiguous.
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nemo44x ◴[] No.41896179[source]
He gets basic facts wrong in his blog though. For instance the rewards are for referring people to sign a petition that says you support 1a and 2a. You need to be registered for your voice to count. He’s not paying them to register but rather to refer registered people to sign it. So it’s up to an individual to find registered voters to sign it so they can collect their $47 bounty per referred signee.
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1. matwood ◴[] No.41896876[source]
> He gets basic facts wrong in his blog though.

No, he doesn't. He references the $47 as 'murky legality'. What he's stating is clearly illegal is the $1M lottery also announced by Musk.

And Musk does what he wants regardless of lawyers. Remember when he tried to back out of buying Twitter...