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US probes Tesla's Full Self-Driving software after fatal crash

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410 points jjulius | 2 comments | 18 Oct 24 16:01 UTC | HN request time: 0.422s | source
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alexjplant ◴[19 Oct 24 17:05 UTC] No.41888998[source]▶
> The collision happened because the sun was in the Tesla driver's eyes, so the Tesla driver was not charged, said Raul Garcia, public information officer for the department.

Am I missing something or is this the gross miscarriage of justice that it sounds like? The driver could afford a $40k vehicle but not $20 polarized shades from Amazon? Negligence is negligence.

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jabroni_salad ◴[19 Oct 24 17:32 UTC] No.41889188[source]▶
Negligence is negligence but people tend to view vehicle collisions as "accidents", as in random occurrences dealt by the hand of fate completely outside of anyone's control. As such, there is a chronic failure to charge motorists with negligence, even when they have killed someone.

If you end up in court, just ask for a jury and you'll be okay. I'm pretty sure this guy didnt even go to court, sounds like it got prosecutor's discretion.

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tsimionescu ◴[20 Oct 24 10:06 UTC] No.41894320[source]▶
That sounds like the justice system living up to its ideals. If the 12 jurors know they would have done the same in your situation, as would their family and friends, then they can't in good conscience convict you for negligence.
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1. pessimizer ◴[20 Oct 24 17:01 UTC] No.41896775[source]▶
It sounds like the kind of narcissism that perverts justice. People understand things they could see themselves doing, don't understand things that they can't see themselves doing, and disregard the law entirely. It makes non-doctors and non-engineers incapable of judging doctors and engineers, rich people incapable of judging poor people, and poor people incapable of judging rich people.

It's just a variation of letting off the defendant that looks like your kid, or brutalizing someone whose victim looks like your kid, it's no ideal of justice.

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2. tsimionescu ◴[21 Oct 24 09:21 UTC] No.41902198[source]▶
I can agree with you in many cases. But for convicting someone due to negligence, they have to, by definition, have conducted themselves in a way that competent people engaged in that activity wouldn't usually. If all drivers drive a certain way, even if it's dangerous, then you're not negligent by the standards of the law for driving that same way.