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bastawhiz ◴[] No.41889192[source]
Lots of people are asking how good the self driving has to be before we tolerate it. I got a one month free trial of FSD and turned it off after two weeks. Quite simply: it's dangerous.

- It failed with a cryptic system error while driving

- It started making a left turn far too early that would have scraped the left side of the car on a sign. I had to manually intervene.

- In my opinion, the default setting accelerates way too aggressively. I'd call myself a fairly aggressive driver and it is too aggressive for my taste.

- It tried to make way too many right turns on red when it wasn't safe to. It would creep into the road, almost into the path of oncoming vehicles.

- It didn't merge left to make room for vehicles merging onto the highway. The vehicles then tried to cut in. The system should have avoided an unsafe situation like this in the first place.

- It would switch lanes to go faster on the highway, but then missed an exit on at least one occasion because it couldn't make it back into the right lane in time. Stupid.

After the system error, I lost all trust in FSD from Tesla. Until I ride in one and feel safe, I can't have any faith that this is a reasonable system. Hell, even autopilot does dumb shit on a regular basis. I'm grateful to be getting a car from another manufacturer this year.

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anonu ◴[] No.41895150[source]
My experience has been directionally the same as yours but not of the same magnitude. There's a lot of room from improvement but it's still very good. I'm in a slightly suburban setting... I suspect you're in a fender denser location that me, in which case your experience may be different.
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1. amelius ◴[] No.41895212[source]
Their irresponsible behavior says enough. Even if they fix all their technical issues, they are not driven by a safety culture.

The first question that comes to their minds is not "how can we prevent this accident?" but it's "how can we further inflate this bubble?"