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upghost ◴[] No.41892933[source]
Well this comment is about the article not LLMs so I doubt it will have much in the way of legs, but this work has already been covered extensively and to a fascinating depth by Jaak Panksepp [1].

His work explores the neuropsychology of emotions WAIT DON'T GO they are actually the substrate of consciousness, NOT the other way around.

We have 7 primary affective processes (measurable hardware level emotions) and they are not what you think[2]. They are considered primary because they are sublinguistic. For instance, witnessing the color red is a primary experience, you cannot explain in words the color red to someone who has not ever seen it before.

His work is a really fascinating read if you ever want to take a break from puters for a minute and learn how people work.

PS the reason this sort of research isn't more widely known is because the behaviorist school was so incredibly dominant since the 1970s they made it completely taboo to discuss subjective experience in the realm of scientific discourse. In fact the emotions we are usually taught are not based on emotional states but on muscle contractions in the face! Not being allowed to talk about emotions in psychological studies or the inner process of the mind is kinda crazy when you think about it. So only recently with neuroimaging has it suddenly become ok to acknowledge that things happen in the brain independent of externally observable behavior.

[1] https://a.co/d/6EYULdP

[2] - seeking - fear - anxiety and grief - rage - lust - play!!! - caring

[3] if this sounds familiar at all it's because Jordan Peterson cites Jaak Panksep all the time. Well 50% of the time, the other 50% is CG Jung and the final 50% is the book of Exodus for some reason.

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1. sebmellen ◴[] No.41892951[source]
Fascinating comment and I’m glad I caught it! Thank you!