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rKarpinski ◴[] No.41889014[source]
'Pedestrian' in this context seems pretty misleading

"Two vehicles collided on the freeway, blocking the left lane. A Toyota 4Runner stopped, and two people got out to help with traffic control. A red Tesla Model Y then hit the 4Runner and one of the people who exited from it. "

edit: Parent article was changed... I was referring to the title of the NPR article.

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Retric ◴[] No.41889049[source]
More clarity may change people’s opinion of the accident, but IMO pedestrian meaningfully represents someone who is limited to human locomotion and lacks any sort of protection in a collision.

Which seems like a reasonable description of the type of failure involved in the final few seconds before impact.

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rKarpinski ◴[] No.41889482[source]
Omitting that the pedestrian was on a freeway meaningfully mis-represents the situation.
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Retric ◴[] No.41890503[source]
People walking on freeways may be rare from the perspective of an individual driver but not a self driving system operating on millions of vehicles.
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rKarpinski ◴[] No.41890663[source]
What does that have to do with the original article's misleading title?
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Retric ◴[] No.41890810[source]
I don’t think it’s misleading. It’s a tile not some hundred word description of what exactly happened.

Calling them motorists would definitely be misleading by comparison. Using the simple “fatal crash” of the linked title implies the other people might in be responsible which is misleading.

Using accident but saying Tesla was at fault could open them up to liability and therefore isn’t an option.

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rKarpinski ◴[] No.41890974[source]
> I don’t think it’s misleading. It’s a tile not some hundred word description of what exactly happened.

"Pedestrian killed on freeway" instead of "pedestrian killed" doesn't take 100 words and doesn't give the impression Tesla's are mowing people down on crosswalks (although that's a feature to get clicks, not a bug).

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Retric ◴[] No.41890979[source]
Without context that implies the pedestrians shouldn’t have been on the freeway.

It’s not an issue for Tesla, but it does imply bad things about the victims.

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rKarpinski ◴[] No.41891136[source]
A title of "U.S. to probe Tesla's 'Full Self-Driving' system after pedestrian killed on freeway" would in no way imply bad things about the pedestrian who was killed.
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1. Retric ◴[] No.41891642[source]
It was my first assumption when I was read pedestrian on freeway in someone’s comment without context. Possibly due to Uber self driving fatality.

Stranded motorists who exit their vehicle, construction workers, first responders, tow truck drivers, etc are the most common victims but that’s not the association I had.