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fnordpiglet ◴[] No.41885384[source]
For those who can’t and don’t think in words this is unsurprising.
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Razengan ◴[] No.41889753[source]
Can you count without using a "language"?

Try it now: Tap your hand on the desk randomly. Can you recall how many times you did it without "saying" a sequence in your head like "1, 2, 3" or "A, B, C" etc?

If yes, how far can you count? With a language it's effectively infinite. You could theoretically go up to "1 million 5 hundred 43 thousand, 2 hundred and 10" and effortlessly know what comes next.

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datameta ◴[] No.41889888[source]
I can remember the sequence of sounds and like a delay line repeat that sequence in my head. This becomes easier the more distinguishable the taps are or the more of a cadence variability there is. But if it is a longer sequence I compress it by remembering an analogue like so: doo doo da doo da doo da da doo (reminiscent of morse code, or a kind of auditory binary). Would we consider this language? I think in the colloquial sense no, but it is essentially a machine language equivalent.

For context I have both abstract "multimedia" thought processes and hypervisor-like internal narrative depending on the nature of the experience or task.

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1. pineaux ◴[] No.41891526[source]
I think this is what language is. It's a sequence rememberance system.
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2. Razengan ◴[] No.41891876[source]
Oh no… That would vindicate the chatbots..