Svelte 5 Released

Hope it starts to chip into React’s usershare and more companies adopt it, but I know that’s a slow process especially for the big companies.

I got out of front end development for most of the years Angular and React have dominated and it looked like a mess, but Svelte and even Astro make sense, maybe I’m just old school. I would totally go back to the frontend with these new frameworks.

If Vue hasn't made a dent, I don't ever expect Svelte to. Angular was the only high-level competitor and I haven't heard that one in a long time already.

For a framework to eat into React's usage, it needs a strong evangelist (like Facebook has been for React)

React is cargo cult at the moment and has been for years already. People will just use react because everybody is using react, no matter if it makes sense or not.

But didn’t Vue come before React? And it’s mostly the same from what I understand, it’s not totally different like Svelte. I think it can change, if more people put it on their resumes and LinkedIn and if those that know React say can do things in 1/3 the time with Svelte and mention that in interviews as well. That is a slow way of evangelism for Svelte that can spread.

I was very amused this summer, hearing a company that I had worked at six years ago is switching from React to Angular. I had thought angular was dead.

Angular is really popular for corporate apps, in companies who use .NET. Possibly because Angular has batteries included.

No, react came first. And Vue is not the same. Vue 3 added reactivity via refs (which are essentially signals by today's terminology). They can be used outside of components, like Svelte's runes. Svelte 5 is very similar to Vue 3. So much so I jokingly called it "svuelte" when they first announced it.

Vue gets unfairly overlooked imo. I worked with it for 12 months and it was mostly a joy

I gave React a handful of year to get popular and mature. I tried to approach it an immediately ran into basically endless arguments and bitching about how to manage state. There was no clear winner so I dropped it. Everywhere I landed trying to find advice or best practices just led to more questions. Like WTF?

Svelt, Vue3 or hell...Angular, and it's off to the races. I just need to know how to accomplish all the things being demanded by Product.

React has already been chosen. The familiar hammer. Face it, there is an entire workforce worth of devs who think web development is React (and now they are moving into management). The same way droves of people think Facebook is the internet.

useState has been present in React for years.

Looking at the docs, Svelte is a mix of React and Vue, IMO.

They reverted from the `on` syntax while adding in signals like Vue's `ref`. The way the props pass down is more akin to React than Vue, but the overall reactivity system feels the same as Vue.

I'm not sure I'd pick it over either Vue or React.

Prop drilling sucks and React has at least a handful of different philosophies when it comes to managing cross-cutting state (Redux, Jotai/Recoil, Zustand, Context, etc.).

I'm only familiar with Angular so far, but looking for a more enjoyable framework for personal projects. I'm having a hard time deciding between Vue and Svelte. Vue seems to be better supported by component vendors (PrimeVue, DevExtreme), but Svelte looks better from a framework perspective itself.