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yarg ◴[] No.41890038[source]
Is this not obvious?

Language is a very poor substitute for freely flowing electrical information - it is evolved to compensate for the bottlenecks to external communication - bottlenecks that are lacking an internal analogue.

It's also a highly advanced feature - something as heavily optiimised as evolved life would not allow something as vital as cognition to be hampered by a lack of means for high fidelity external expression.

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1. IIAOPSW ◴[] No.41890070[source]
It is not at all obvious that "freely flowing electrical information" isn't just language in a different medium, much the same as video on a cassette tape.
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2. yarg ◴[] No.41890432[source]
Yes it is.

Language is designed to be expressible with low fidelity vibrating strings - it is very clear that the available bandwidth is in the order of bytes per second.

Verses a fucking neural network with ~100 billion neurons.

Come on man, seriously - the two communication modalities are completely incomparable.

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3. IIAOPSW ◴[] No.41890766[source]
Versus a fucking phone network with ~10 billion active numbers.

Come on man, seriously - the two communication modalities are completely incomparable.

Clearly the information traveling around on the phone network couldn't possibly be the same as the low bandwidth vibrating strings used in face to face communication. Obviously.

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4. yarg ◴[] No.41890935{3}[source]
There's a major difference - the phone network takes in prerequisite constraints on the nature of the information that it's encoding; it is forced by its functionality to be a reflection of spoken language.

The internal communications of the mind have no need for such constraints (and evolved hundreds of millions of years beforehand).

Anyway, I don't know what you were actually trying to argue here: you just built a simulated brain out of people, and the massively multi-agent distributed nature of the language of that machine is (emergently) incomparable with vocalised language.