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NASA freezes Starliner missions

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269 points rntn | 4 comments | 17 Oct 24 19:56 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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OutOfHere ◴[19 Oct 24 14:32 UTC] No.41887967[source]▶
> The space agency will now judge how the Starliner could be eventually certified to fly

Methinks this will require firing all Boeing management, and taking it private :)

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butterlettuce ◴[19 Oct 24 14:39 UTC] No.41888012[source]▶
I’m all for Elon buying it and trusting that he makes the necessary changes.
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pfdietz ◴[19 Oct 24 14:44 UTC] No.41888047[source]▶
I think I saw recently that SpaceX is worth about 2x Boeing right now.
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Loughla ◴[19 Oct 24 18:38 UTC] No.41889679[source]▶
Spacex is at 180bn

Boeing is at 96bn

I was actually prepared to call bullshit on you, but I stand corrected. I figured Boeing would be worth more with all the other things it does.

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1. Pedro_Ribeiro ◴[19 Oct 24 18:42 UTC] No.41889703[source]▶
Airplane companies are worth surprisingly less than expected for how crucial and important they seem at first glance.

The market is also not as big as you'd think.

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2. ethbr1 ◴[19 Oct 24 19:37 UTC] No.41890139[source]▶
It says a lot about the profitability and certification costs in the commercial market.

It's a critical long lead-time, institutional industry, for a nation. But a moneymaker, it's not.

(Even Airbus, if I'm reading it right, is at a USD$120b market cap)

3. Crunchified ◴[19 Oct 24 23:03 UTC] No.41891468[source]▶
Diverging slightly from the topic, Palm (the Palm Pilot company) at one point had a market cap higher than all US airlines combined.
4. pfdietz ◴[20 Oct 24 15:06 UTC] No.41895800[source]▶
Boeing is looking like an old, struggling company in a mature industry.

This is also suggesting to me that commercial aviation isn't going to be seeing that much advancement going forward, rather than incremental changes at a decelerating rate. Strong headwinds, say from the energy transition, may actually shrink it a lot.