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rKarpinski ◴[] No.41889014[source]
'Pedestrian' in this context seems pretty misleading

"Two vehicles collided on the freeway, blocking the left lane. A Toyota 4Runner stopped, and two people got out to help with traffic control. A red Tesla Model Y then hit the 4Runner and one of the people who exited from it. "

edit: Parent article was changed... I was referring to the title of the NPR article.

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1. neom ◴[] No.41889056[source]
That is the correct use of pedestrian as a noun.
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2. echoangle ◴[] No.41889079[source]
Sometimes using a word correctly is still confusing because it’s used in a different context 90% of the time.
3. szundi ◴[] No.41889081[source]
I think parent commenter emphasized the context.

Leaving out context that would otherwise change the interpretation of most or targeted people is the main way to misled those people without technically lying.

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4. neom ◴[] No.41889153[source]
I mean it's the literal language they use in the report[1]. Personally, would much prefer a publication to be technically correct, a person on foot on a motorway is referred to as a pedestrian, that is the name for that.

[1]https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/inv/2024/INOA-PE24031-23232.pdf

5. varenc ◴[] No.41889154[source]
By a stricter definition, a pedestrian is one who travels by foot. Of course, they are walking, but they’re traveling via their car, so by some interpretations you wouldn’t call them a pedestrian. You could call them a “motorist” or a “stranded vehicle occupant”.

For understanding the accident it does seem meaningful that they were motorists that got out of their car on a highway and not pedestrians at a street crossing. (Still inexcusable of course, but changes the context)

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6. bastawhiz ◴[] No.41889232[source]
Cars and drivers ideally shouldn't hit people who exited their vehicles after an accident on a highway. Identifying and avoiding hazards is part of driving.
7. neom ◴[] No.41889330[source]
As far as I am aware, pes doesn't carry an inherent meaning of travel. Pedestrian just means foot on, they don't need to be moving, they're just not in carriage. As an aside, distinguishing a person's mode of presence is precisely what reports aim to capture.

(I also do tend to avoid this level of pedantry, the points here are all well taken to be clear. I do think the original poster was fine in their comment, I was just sayin' - but this isn't a cross I would die on :))

8. sebzim4500 ◴[] No.41890485[source]
That's why he said misleading rather than an outright lie. He is not disputing that it is techincally correct to refer to the deceased as a pedestrian, but this scenario (someone out of their car on a freeway) is not what is going to spring to the mind of someone just reading the headline.