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US probes Tesla's Full Self-Driving software after fatal crash

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410 points jjulius | 9 comments | 18 Oct 24 16:01 UTC | HN request time: 0.407s | source | bottom
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alexjplant ◴[19 Oct 24 17:05 UTC] No.41888998[source]▶
> The collision happened because the sun was in the Tesla driver's eyes, so the Tesla driver was not charged, said Raul Garcia, public information officer for the department.

Am I missing something or is this the gross miscarriage of justice that it sounds like? The driver could afford a $40k vehicle but not $20 polarized shades from Amazon? Negligence is negligence.

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1. macintux ◴[19 Oct 24 17:11 UTC] No.41889033[source]▶
I have no idea what the conditions were like for this incident, but I’ve blown through a 4-way stop sign when the sun was setting. There’s only so much sunglasses can do.
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2. eptcyka ◴[19 Oct 24 17:17 UTC] No.41889072[source]▶
If environmental factors incapacitate you, should you not slow down or stop?
3. vortegne ◴[19 Oct 24 17:25 UTC] No.41889126[source]▶
You shouldn't be on the road then? If you can't see, you should slow down. If you can't handle driving in given conditions safely for everyone involved, you should slow down or stop. If everybody would drive like you, there'd be a whole lot more death on the roads.
4. alexjplant ◴[19 Oct 24 17:25 UTC] No.41889130[source]▶
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ If I can't see because of rain, hail, intense sun reflections, frost re-forming on my windshield, etc. then I pull over and put my flashers on until the problem subsides. Should I have kept the 4700 lb vehicle in fifth gear at 55 mph without the ability to see in front of me in each of these instances? I submit that I should not have and that I did the right thing.
5. ablation ◴[19 Oct 24 18:06 UTC] No.41889438[source]▶
Yet so much more YOU could have done, don’t you think?
6. Doctor_Fegg ◴[19 Oct 24 18:52 UTC] No.41889776[source]▶
Yes, officer, this one right here.
7. singleshot_ ◴[19 Oct 24 19:29 UTC] No.41890072[source]▶
> There’s only so much sunglasses can do.

For everything else, you have brakes.

8. IshKebab ◴[20 Oct 24 03:13 UTC] No.41892591[source]▶
I know right? Once I got something in my eye so I couldn't see at all, but I decided that since I couldn't do anything about it the best thing was to keep driving. I killed a few pedestrians but... eh, what was I going to do?
9. kelnos ◴[20 Oct 24 09:46 UTC] No.41894249[source]▶
Your license should be suspended. If conditions don't allow you to see things like that, you slow down until you can. If you still can't, then you need to pull over and wait until conditions make it safe to drive again.

Gross.