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    167 points godelmachine | 12 comments | | HN request time: 0.258s | source | bottom
    1. mschuster91 ◴[] No.41888573[source]
    Of course they got too big, and especially they got too enmeshed with the auditing business.

    It's time to break them all up. The "firewall" that should be there from a legal perspective is a joke in practice, and when there are only three to four companies, there is no place for fresh blood and with it fresh ideas to enter the market.

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    2. jncfhnb ◴[] No.41888605[source]
    McKinsey isn’t in the auditing business at all. And those that do play both went the other way, transitioning from auditing into consulting.

    There’s a ton of competition in consulting in general.

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    3. andsoitis ◴[] No.41888643[source]
    > they got too enmeshed with the auditing business.

    McKinsey does not have an auditing business.

    4. insane_dreamer ◴[] No.41888656[source]
    > too enmeshed with the auditing business

    that's not the issue; consulting pays much more than auditing, which is why the Big4 would probably be fine spinning off their auditing businesses

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    5. CPLX ◴[] No.41888725[source]
    The firewall is of course a fiction.

    The entire point of these consultancies is to allow collusion between competitors, which is otherwise illegal.

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    6. metadat ◴[] No.41888734[source]
    This is false, the Big 4 are all in the auditing business, in addition to high-end management consulting.
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    7. SargeDebian ◴[] No.41888809{3}[source]
    What part of the statement is false?
    8. jncfhnb ◴[] No.41889018{3}[source]
    McKinsey is not a part of the Big 4. The Big 4 refers to the big four auditing firms.
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    9. imperialdrive ◴[] No.41889137[source]
    Interesting, I never considered that thought before.
    10. metadat ◴[] No.41890302{4}[source]
    Thanks for the correction.
    11. chasd00 ◴[] No.41890563[source]
    My sister worked at McKinsey some years ago. Her favorite story is the firm working on the Obama and McCain campaign at the same time! Heh just a wee bit of conflict there.
    12. wombatpm ◴[] No.41890823[source]
    Said spinoffs would probably start new consulting branches after some period of time