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kombine[dead post] ◴[] No.41883826[source]
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worik ◴[] No.41885214[source]
Yes

One day we will be telling these stories about Palestinians

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mjfl ◴[] No.41885571[source]
That is a hopelessly optimistic statement. Wait until the Israelis write the history, they will have your grandchildren worshipping at their feet for surviving the Hamas onslaught.
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ein0p ◴[] No.41886120[source]
You’re presupposing they actually survive the current events and come out victorious in order to “write history”. I’m not sure of that at all if things kick off in earnest there.
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1. sceptical ◴[] No.41886795[source]
Quite a bit of wishful thinking here. Who exactly would be able to defeat Israel? Iran? They are cowering in fear right now. Hamas? Hezbollah? Please.
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2. ein0p ◴[] No.41886842[source]
Just Iran alone is capable of defeating Israel if it wishes. Israel is only 8M people. There are hundreds of millions of Muslims living in Middle East. They aren’t united right now, but Israel, ironically, could unite them.
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3. sceptical ◴[] No.41886860[source]
But it wishes it already. Israel however has nukes and is backed by the US. Iran wouldn't last 10 minutes.
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4. ein0p ◴[] No.41886874{3}[source]
Not only does Iran not wish to destroy Israel, it is also unwilling to allow Hezbollah to successfully do so either. If it wanted to destroy Israel, Israel wouldn’t have any AD after the last strike.
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5. fldskfjdslkfj ◴[] No.41887024{4}[source]
You are delusional. Iran lost most of its deterrence, its proxies have been decimated and its ICBM capabilities, although not nothing haven't really managed to cause any significant damage and have shown that they lack sufficient accuracy.

Will the balance of power change a few decades from now? Maybe, who knows, but for now Iran is in a tough spot.

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6. ein0p ◴[] No.41887215{5}[source]
Uh-uh. The country which has just tested a nuke a couple of weeks ago and easily defeated the Iron Dome with its cheaper rocket stock is “totally decimated”. Sure buddy.
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7. fldskfjdslkfj ◴[] No.41887274{6}[source]
What are you even talking about?
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8. ein0p ◴[] No.41887399{7}[source]
Seek different news sources. That earthquake in Iran wasn’t an earthquake. It didn’t have aftershocks and USGS couldn’t determine the depth.
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9. fldskfjdslkfj ◴[] No.41887439{8}[source]
Enjoy your speculative theories. Lots of minor earthquakes don't have aftershocks, not to mention that Iran is one of the most seismically active countries in the world.

But please feel free to provide a trustworthy news source backing your claim.

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10. austin-cheney ◴[] No.41887739[source]
> Who exactly would be able to defeat Israel?

All it would take is for the US to stop giving them weapons. That's literally it.

Their military, the IDF, is in extremely poor state. This isn't the same military that made history in the six day war. Under the same sort of conditions today the IDF would have their asses handed to them.

When I say "extremely poor state" I am referring to their discipline, precision, and ability to move under fire. The current IDF operates more like the Russian army who are absolutely having their asses handed to them by a vastly inferior force. These are just my personal opinions from my own 27 years of military experience.

11. ein0p ◴[] No.41888140{9}[source]
What is a “trustworthy news source” these days. I saw the seismograph charts on Twitter. If you expect any “trustworthy” news in an environment where US MIC could get another trillion dollars in (borrowed) taxpayer money, I have a bridge I’d like to sell.
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13. fldskfjdslkfj ◴[] No.41888816{10}[source]
A news source that has confirmed with at least one seismology expert who has conducted a thorough (preferably peer reviewed) analysis showing that the charts are abnormal for an earthquake and are more inline with those of an explosion.

It seems to me like it's should be extremely easy to distinguish the two, there's more than enough earthquake data - and that fact that there is no such report says it all. For starters i'd even take an amateur analysis, but just some dude on twitter saying "there was seismic activity - must be a nuclear test" - nah.

14. megous ◴[] No.41891430[source]
History is already written, this is the age of everyone recording and sharing things. There's no meaningful rewriting it.

They don't get to directly and intentionally kill and/or cause death, injury and illness to high hundreds of thousands of people very publicly and proudly, while writing "death to Arabs", "good Arab = dead Arab", "Nakba 2023", and other vile shit on the walls of their destroyed cities.

Easy to see this is not Israel+USA trying to eliminate Hamas, but some holy war to eliminate Palestinians as a whole, in the most underhanded way possible, as to not get blowback from the non-USA countries.

They'll destroy themselves, continuing doing this, provoking neighbors and inciting Palestinians for a massive revenge wave in the future. It doesn't matter when this happens, but Israel is done after this. They're not a superpower and USA backing under Trump, once he wins, will only serve to make their crimes more obvious, and self-destructive behavior more bold.

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15. aguaviva ◴[] No.41900644[source]
While writing "death to Arabs", "good Arab = dead Arab", "Nakba 2023", and other vile shit on the walls of their destroyed cities.

Can you provide incident details, please? I'm not doubting that stuff like this has happened, but specific (at least theoretically reliable) attestations are always helpful.

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16. mjfl ◴[] No.41900817{3}[source]
These are relatively easy to google. Here's at least one of the incidents they referred to

https://imgur.com/a/UE5q2Fm

It's actually a common point of rhetoric:

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-11-12/ty-article/is...

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17. aguaviva ◴[] No.41908422{4}[source]
Precious, thanks
18. megous ◴[] No.41908674{3}[source]
Here for example https://x.com/ytirawi/status/1844123450908278982

Translation of the text behind the dancing soldiers in the first comment from B.M.

(BTW, three of these soldiers were eliminated already in Al-Zaytoun in Gaza City near the school where this was filmed - https://www.ynetnews.com/article/rylxrqpoc)