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US probes Tesla's Full Self-Driving software after fatal crash

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410 points jjulius | 3 comments | 18 Oct 24 16:01 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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dietsche ◴[18 Oct 24 16:27 UTC] No.41880940[source]▶
I would like more details. There are definitely situations where neither a car nor a human could respond quickly enough to a situation on the road.

for example, I recently hit a deer. The dashcam shows that I had less than 100 feet from when the deer became visible due to terrain to impact while driving at 60 mph. Keeping in mind that stopping a car in 100 feet at 60 mph is impossible. Most vehicles need more than triple that without accounting for human reaction time.

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arcanemachiner ◴[18 Oct 24 18:28 UTC] No.41882116[source]▶
This is called "overdriving your vision", and it's so common that it boggles my mind. (This opinion might have something to do with the deer I hit when I first started driving...)

Drive according to the conditions, folks.

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Kirby64 ◴[18 Oct 24 20:07 UTC] No.41882997[source]▶
On many roads if a deer jumps across the road at the wrong time there’s literally nothing you can do. You can’t always drive at 30mph on back country roads just because a deer might hop out at you.
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seadan83 ◴[19 Oct 24 02:17 UTC] No.41885144[source]▶
World of difference between, 30, 40, 50 and 60. Feels like something I have noticed between west and east coast drivers. Latter really send it on country turns and just trust the road. West coast, particularly montana, when vision is reduced, speed slows down. Just too many animals or road obstacles (eg: rocks, planks of wood) to just trust the road.
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1. Kirby64 ◴[19 Oct 24 03:23 UTC] No.41885416[source]▶
Road obstacles are static and can be seen by not “out driving your headlights”. Animals flinging themselves into the road cannot, in many instances.
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2. amenhotep ◴[19 Oct 24 14:03 UTC] No.41887825[source]▶
You are responding in a thread about a person saying they were driving at 60 when the deer only became visible "due to terrain" at 100 feet away, and therefore hitting it is no reflection on their skill or choices as a driver.

I suppose we're meant to interpret charitably here, but it really seems to me like there is a big difference between the scenario described and the one you're talking about, where the deer really does fling itself out in front of you.

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3. dietsche ◴[19 Oct 24 22:43 UTC] No.41891354[source]▶
op here. you nailed it on the head. also, the car started breaking before i could!

incidentally, i’ve also had the tesla dodge a deer successfully!

autopilot has improved in BIG ways over the past 2 years. went 700 miles in one day on autopilot thru the mountains. no issues at all.

that said expecting perfection from a machine or a human is a fools errand.