Code that helped end Apartheid

> Protests and petitions are completely ineffective

They have been effective for millenia, even before democracy. The only thing ineffective now is people saying so. With all the evidence in the world that protest works, people bizarrely disarm themselves.

The targets of the protests take great pains to convince you of it; that should tell you something. They'll bluff until they lose.

I think this greatly depends on rhe type of protest, specifically whether it threatens the ruling class's ability to make a profit or to govern. In recent centuries liberal governments have gotten better at channeling discontent into forms of protest that are less consequential and more performative.

The world would be better off if all the defeatists followed their own advice and did something else with their lives, and left the political activities to a new generation with fight and committment and passion in them, people with leadership and agency.

If people are going to quit, then quit! Stop coming to the meeting and talking about you've quit!

I don't disagree with what you're saying but I'm confused about why it's a reply to my comment.