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US probes Tesla's Full Self-Driving software after fatal crash

(www.reuters.com)
410 points jjulius | 4 comments | 18 Oct 24 16:01 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source
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ivewonyoung ◴[19 Oct 24 01:34 UTC] No.41884954[source]▶
> NHTSA said it was opening the inquiry after four reports of crashes where FSD was engaged during reduced roadway visibility like sun glare, fog, or airborne dust. A pedestrian was killed in Rimrock, Arizona, in November 2023 after being struck by a 2021 Tesla Model Y, NHTSA said. Another crash under investigation involved a reported injury

> The probe covers 2016-2024 Model S and X vehicles with the optional system as well as 2017-2024 Model 3, 2020-2024 Model Y, and 2023-2024 Cybertruck vehicles.

This is good, but also for context 45 thousand people are killed in auto accidents in just the US every year, making 4 report crashes and 1 reported fatality for 2.4 million vehicles over 8 years look miniscule by comparison, or even better than many human drivers.

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1. whiplash451 ◴[19 Oct 24 01:45 UTC] No.41885003[source]▶
Did you scale your numbers in proportion of miles driven autonomously vs manually?
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2. josephg ◴[19 Oct 24 01:49 UTC] No.41885021[source]▶
Yeah, that’d be the interesting figure: How many deaths per million miles driven? How does Tesla’s full self driving stack up against human drivers?
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3. gostsamo ◴[19 Oct 24 01:57 UTC] No.41885055[source]▶
Even that is not good enough, because the "autopilot" usually is not engaged in challenging conditions making any direct comparisons not really reliable. You need similar roads in simila weather and similar time of the day for approximating good comparison.
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4. ivewonyoung ◴[19 Oct 24 02:26 UTC] No.41885182{3}[source]▶
How many of the 45,000 deaths on US roads( and an order of magnitude more injuries) occur due to 'challenging conditions' ?