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GordonS[dead post] ◴[] No.41879865[source]
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HideousKojima ◴[] No.41882464[source]
>branding freedom fighters as terrorists

I mean bombing government buildings (which is what landed Mandela in prison) is definitely what most people would consider terrorism, or treason, or similar things. Now you can argue that Mandela's actions were justified because Apartheid was evil (and I agree that it was evil) but that's entirely different than arguing that he was just a poor victim of the racist SA government who was imprisoned because he wanted to end Apartheid.

The problem is that people feel morally uncomfortable arguing that it's ok to bomb government buildings (and similar actions) when your cause is just, because that raises all sorts of other moral quandaries that most people don't want to (or refuse to) face. So they pretend like Mandela and his party were perfect angels practicing non-violent resistance like MLK so they can avoid the moral quandaries raised by suggesting that terrorism is ok for a just cause.

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cempaka ◴[] No.41882657[source]
Is the IDF dropping bombs on apartment buildings in Beirut "terrorism"?
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HideousKojima[dead post] ◴[] No.41883556[source]
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cempaka ◴[] No.41884559[source]
Okay, well then if government buildings house any members of the IDF or apartheid South Africa's military, then certainly they are also legitimate targets and it is not "terrorism" to destroy them with bombs? Or, conversely, the label must also be applied to IDF sorties?
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HideousKojima ◴[] No.41884695{3}[source]
>Okay, well then if government buildings house any members of the IDF or apartheid South Africa's military, then certainly they are also legitimate targets and it is not "terrorism" to destroy them with bombs?

Only if you ignore the distinctions between what was essentially a civil war fought by insurgents (like in Apartheid South Africa) and a war between two sovereign powers.

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1. cempaka ◴[] No.41884914{4}[source]
And how is that distinction relevant to whether a given act should be labeled "terrorism" or not?