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GordonS[dead post] ◴[] No.41879865[source]
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HideousKojima ◴[] No.41882464[source]
>branding freedom fighters as terrorists

I mean bombing government buildings (which is what landed Mandela in prison) is definitely what most people would consider terrorism, or treason, or similar things. Now you can argue that Mandela's actions were justified because Apartheid was evil (and I agree that it was evil) but that's entirely different than arguing that he was just a poor victim of the racist SA government who was imprisoned because he wanted to end Apartheid.

The problem is that people feel morally uncomfortable arguing that it's ok to bomb government buildings (and similar actions) when your cause is just, because that raises all sorts of other moral quandaries that most people don't want to (or refuse to) face. So they pretend like Mandela and his party were perfect angels practicing non-violent resistance like MLK so they can avoid the moral quandaries raised by suggesting that terrorism is ok for a just cause.

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cempaka ◴[] No.41882657[source]
Is the IDF dropping bombs on apartment buildings in Beirut "terrorism"?
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HideousKojima[dead post] ◴[] No.41883556[source]
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hashbig ◴[] No.41883968[source]
That's not how collateral damage works. The moral and legal responsibility is on the one dropping the bombs. As horrible as the US wars were, when we decided to kill Bin Laden, we sent a special operations team at night instead of flattening entire villages in Pakistan.

The indiscriminate killing that Israel is doing in Gaza and Lebanon is unprecedented since the second World War. Justifying it will normalize civilian casualties in future wars that with be disastrous for everyone.

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wahnfrieden ◴[] No.41884162{3}[source]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI-assisted_targeting_in_the_G...
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1. cempaka ◴[] No.41884595{4}[source]
Wow, naming the Skynet targeting system "Gospel" puts a particularly Satanic flourish on the whole thing.