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taeric ◴[] No.41882513[source]
This will be a tough fight. I'm assuming warranty and second sale transactions will be much more complicated in some futures. In big purchases, I'd assume it would be a lot like Title Insurance on real estate?

I'm curious where this will ultimately go. Feels like the best path would be a "minimal capability" set that machines need to support at basically a mechanical level? Probably gets a lot more complicated on some of the more advanced gear. Which, really doesn't help the narrative, as people try and show the basic tractors as the only thing impacted.

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lcnPylGDnU4H9OF ◴[] No.41882565[source]
> second sale transactions will be much more complicated in some futures

I recall a story of a person who bought a used Tesla which erroneously had some feature or another enabled -- sold by the second-hand dealer and purchased by the customer with the understanding that the car came with the feature -- until the feature was remotely disabled when someone at Tesla discovered the error.

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taeric ◴[] No.41882602[source]
Some of the features that are gated by cars are just silly, such that I'd want to know more about the feature before really having an opinion on this. Is why I would think a "minimal feature set" would be key.

Even in this scenario, though, I would expect you'd need something like the Title Insurance to really protect people?

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lcnPylGDnU4H9OF ◴[] No.41882911[source]
It would definitely not fall under such a feature set given that it's something that seemingly can be reasonably disabled and only otherwise increases the value of the vehicle. I recall that the buyer thought they were buying the thing with the feature and the seller thought they were selling the thing with the feature when someone uninvolved with the transaction (the original manufacturer, Tesla in this case) changed the deal after-the-fact. It seems a bit moot how one feels about the feature itself when they can observe that the people transacting seem to agree on the value of the feature.

(Looks like it was something to do with Autopilot, for what it's worth. https://www.theverge.com/2020/2/6/21127243/tesla-model-s-aut...)

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1. taeric ◴[] No.41883272[source]
Ostensibly, I could see some "autopilot" like stuff relying somewhat on a central server. That said, I would also expect some form of local only capability to be available. Devil would be in the details.