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Microsoft and OpenAI's close partnership shows signs of fraying

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321 points jhunter1016 | 6 comments | 18 Oct 24 11:11 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source | bottom
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WithinReason ◴[18 Oct 24 12:04 UTC] No.41878604[source]▶
Does OpenAI have any fundamental advantage beyond brand recognition?
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idunnoman1222 ◴[18 Oct 24 17:33 UTC] No.41881647[source]▶
Yes, they already collected all the data. The same data has had walls put up around it
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1. ugh123 ◴[18 Oct 24 18:23 UTC] No.41882077[source]▶
Which data? Is that data that Google and/or Meta can't get or doesn't have already?
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2. jazzyjackson ◴[18 Oct 24 20:10 UTC] No.41883016[source]▶
Well, at this point most new data being created is conversations with chatgpt, seeing as how stack overflow and reddit are increasingly useless, so their conversation logs are their moat.
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3. charlieyu1 ◴[18 Oct 24 20:22 UTC] No.41883115[source]▶
AI companies have been paying people to create new data for a while
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4. staticautomatic ◴[18 Oct 24 22:03 UTC] No.41883911[source]▶
There’s tons of human-created data the AI companies aren’t using yet.
5. ugh123 ◴[18 Oct 24 22:09 UTC] No.41883947[source]▶
Do you mean by RLHF? If so, thats not 'data' used by the model in the traditional sense.
6. sangnoir ◴[18 Oct 24 22:27 UTC] No.41884055[source]▶
> so their conversation logs are their moat

Google and Meta aren't exactly lacking in conversation data: Facebook, Messenger, Instagram, Google Talk, Google Groups, Google Plus, Blogspot comments, Youtube Transcripts, &tc. The breadth and and breadth of data those 2 companies are sitting on that goes back for years is mind boggling.