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Secret 3D scans in the French Supreme Court

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771 points abetusk | 2 comments | 18 Oct 24 08:50 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source
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praptak ◴[18 Oct 24 11:31 UTC] No.41878392[source]▶
I am okay with public information being free to use commercially, with a huge disclaimer though.

Wherever copyright is applicable, the public should retain it, that's what public domain is for. Any derived works, commercial or otherwise should also be in the public domain.

If you fight for "public access" so that you can make your own stuff locked behind a copyright, then you are the hypocrite here.

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geokon ◴[18 Oct 24 11:39 UTC] No.41878432[source]▶
an interesting example where this has been problematic is OpenStreetMap. They can't ingest a lot of government data b/c their project requires a relicense with their attribution-requirement (where all users are forced to have an ugly OSM bumper sticker on their maps)
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1. cormorant ◴[18 Oct 24 14:55 UTC] No.41880016[source]▶
Wait, what? If the government source is public domain, OSM (or anyone else) can take it and derive from it and can then impose whatever license OSM wants, including an attribution requirement. Did you mean the other way around?

Actually OSM's license is so weak on the attribution it requires, that OSM does not ingest CC-BY data, because OSM believes their further distribution would not satisfy CC-BY's attribution requirement.

https://osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Licence_Compatibility

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2. geokon ◴[19 Oct 24 03:54 UTC] No.41885535[source]▶
The parent comment was talking about wanting a system where "Any derived works, commercial or otherwise should also be in the public domain" so I was talking to that.

I assume when you say "government" you mean the US government. But in other countries it often doesn't work that way. You can't redistribute government maps with more restrictions. I went to a talk about this from an OSM developer here in Taiwan. OSM tries to lobby for the maps to be redistributed under different terms so they can ingest them