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aliasxneo ◴[] No.41875858[source]
> Traditional marriage is the ultimate form of this ideal. You're supposed to stick to it until you die, no matter what, come hell or high water, even if it makes you and everybody around you miserable. That is neither sane nor healthy!

An interesting philosophy, but I don’t think marriage is the best place to apply it. Writing a README and then never starting a project has practically no consequences. Same for picking up a book and then ditching it after a few minutes. Marriage? That’s a whole different ball game, especially when children are involved.

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Swizec ◴[] No.41875980[source]
SOFA works great for marriage, if you tweak the params a little. Most secular people arrive at this by default: You marry your 3rd serious partner sometime in your late 20’s.

Start a lot of long term relationships, finish the one that sticks when both partners are mature and more or less done growing up.

I think there’s another shakeup period (statistically) in your mid to late 40’s. That seems related to when kids start being old enough that they don’t act as a forcing function as much.

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triyambakam ◴[] No.41876064[source]
And that's when those couples often get divorced.

There's strong value in staying with a first partner, like a high school sweetheart. Growing together through life's challenges creates deep emotional bonds and shared experiences. Long-term stability comes from building trust over time and avoiding the emotional toll of repeated breakups.

Couples who navigate growth together often develop stronger, more resilient partnerships.

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Nevermark ◴[] No.41876311{3}[source]
> Couples who navigate growth together often develop stronger, more resilient partnerships.

Nowhere in that wisdom did the word “first” appear.

If at “first” you don’t succeed, keep looking for that partner who, by character, and suitability to you, who will “ navigate growth together”.

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I feel like there is a stay-with-your-first crowd that has a lot of wisdom to share, but logically needs to recognize that commitment to an unworkable situation isn’t really what they are trying to promote.

Props to those that find that person, who will co-invest, can be co-patient, co-flexible, co-loyal, co-appreciative, co-vision the first time.

But those things are just as great, and important to find, regardless of the ordinal.

I think I have that! Number 3. Wish me luck for the future, but 8 years in I am very and honored happy now.

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HKH2 ◴[] No.41876776{4}[source]
> Props to those that find that person, who will co-invest, can be co-patient, co-flexible, co-loyal, co-appreciative, co-vision the first time.

That's what dating is for. It's not magic if you've got your priorities figured out.

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TeMPOraL ◴[] No.41876824{5}[source]
> It's not magic if you've got your priorities figured out.

I doubt most people have their priorities figured out before their 30s. I envy those who do.

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1. HeWhoLurksLate ◴[] No.41876951{6}[source]
Religion seems to help a lot with figuring out a purpose in life at a young age, too
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2. bigfudge ◴[] No.41877007[source]
Provided you don’t later conclude it’s an unsatisfying account of many fundamental questions for modern humans, and then need to leave a community or repress interesting and valid ideas.
3. matthewmacleod ◴[] No.41877105[source]
The impression I get—without being too dismissive—is that it gives you the opportunity to not bother figuring it out.
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4. HKH2 ◴[] No.41884944[source]
It also helps prevent a descent into hedonism.