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365 points lawrenceyan | 3 comments | 17 Oct 24 19:13 UTC | HN request time: 0.414s | source

1. xiaodai ◴[18 Oct 24 05:37 UTC] No.41876623[source]▶

this paper is so dumb. so you modeled the output of stockfish? stockfish does use simulation or selfplay or search. so you've outsourced search and dont do it yourself so you can claim to be "without search"

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2. hilux ◴[18 Oct 24 09:13 UTC] No.41877623[source]▶

>>41876623 (TP) #

Do you understand how ML models are trained?

3. scotty79 ◴[18 Oct 24 10:55 UTC] No.41878189[source]▶

>>41876623 (TP) #

I think what they say is valid. Same way ChatGPT can answer questions google could answer without doing any search like google does.

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Grandmaster-level chess without search