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systemstops ◴[] No.41875713[source]
To have an honest debate about immigration, we need to admit two things: First, that the issue is global and is affecting most developed nations. Second, that the primary concern is demographic change, not the economics of immigration.

This demographic change is the primary reasons for the "populist uprising" of Brexit, Trump and the recent victories of right-wing parties in Europe and, in my opinion, will likely provoke a civil war in at least one Western country in the near future.

Demographics arguably determine the future of nations, and we have been under this bizarre delusion the last few decades that it was no big deal that mass migration was causing demographics of many nations to radically change.

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1. abenga ◴[] No.41877156[source]
It is easier to migrate to a place where you already speak the language to an acceptable level. So I guess, congratulations to English/Spanish speaking peoples for colonizing the world so effectively?
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2. foothefoo ◴[] No.41880190[source]
Lol, you need "English/Spanish" to make this point work. This is to sidestep that huge numbers of Spanish only speakers are migrating to English speaking countries.

Go speak English to illegals. You'll find out they barely understand.