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Is Matt Mullenweg defending WordPress or sabotaging it?

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154 points davidandgoliath | 5 comments | 17 Oct 24 18:53 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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codegeek ◴[17 Oct 24 20:55 UTC] No.41873704[source]▶
Mullenweg just keeps digging. He is the only person I have ever seen interacting in such a petty manner that he made a company backed by Private Equity look like a victim. If Trademark was the issue, why did it take him over a decade ? Why is he not going after all the other gazillion WP providers that use similar phrase on their website ? We all know the answer. The only company (WP Engine) that beat his for profit company (wordpress.com). He is just salty.
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throwawaymaths ◴[17 Oct 24 21:05 UTC] No.41873785[source]▶
Well charitably I would suspect that for the first question, he probably didn't want to rock the open source community too much. Look at the trouble the rust foundation got into for trademark enforcement, and it hasn't really been a decade. In general, there's no good time to start flexing on your trademark.

For your second question, Matt claims that it's partly because WP engine disabled core features of WordPress. I can imagine a world where you are inundated with complaints that your software doesn't do X basic thing (because the top provider has disabled it) but ITS BEEN THERE THIS WHOLE FUCKING TIME TIME STOP COMPLAINING (put a smile on and explain calmly). You get my point. And then you snap.

No idea if that's what is in his mind but I have some sympathy for Matt. In principle. (This is me steelmanning Matt)

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foco_tubi ◴[17 Oct 24 22:44 UTC] No.41874573[source]▶
Who cares if WP Engine disables revisions. Wordpress.com disables the use of plugins, arguably a core feature of WordPress, unless you pony up $300 a year for a "Business" tier account.
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1. throwawaymaths ◴[17 Oct 24 23:00 UTC] No.41874671[source]▶
I don't know about you but I would be more frustrated not being able to revise posts? It's bad enough on twitter I can't update my posts, I have to delete and repost
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2. jeltz ◴[17 Oct 24 23:05 UTC] No.41874703[source]▶
Every WordPress installation I have seen has had plugins. And likely used revisions too. So I would say about the same, both are mandatory features for most users.
3. Kye ◴[17 Oct 24 23:31 UTC] No.41874876[source]▶
Revisions in this discussion is a copy of revisions you've made so you can reference or revert to one. You can still update posts all you want.
4. chucky123 ◴[17 Oct 24 23:40 UTC] No.41874938[source]▶
I can't speak for blogging usecases, but for agency websites we would disable revisions and a bunch of other things for every single wordpress installation(even the blog posts that show up on the main admin area)

Heck even Jetpack, Automattics official plugin, recommends limiting revisions: https://jetpack.com/blog/wordpress-revisions/

Lastly, Wpengine never fully disabled post revisions, they just limited it to 2-3.

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5. ceejayoz ◴[18 Oct 24 14:04 UTC] No.41879584[source]▶
> Lastly, Wpengine never fully disabled post revisions, they just limited it to 2-3.

Not quite. https://wpengine.com/support/platform-settings/#Post_Revisio...

"Every WP Engine site has WordPress revisions disabled by default... Revisions can only be enabled by contacting Support... Support can help you enable 3 revisions for your posts to start. Revisions should not exceed 5."