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bityard ◴[] No.41873059[source]
Last year, I was contacted out of the blue by an Automattic recruiter who encouraged me to apply for an engineering position there. I was intrigued for a few minutes because I recognized the company and knew they did some really terrific open source work once upon a time.

But then I regained my senses... I don't have any kind of reputation or extensive proof of accomplishments or character outside of my resume and real-life social circle. Any company that would cold-contact someone like me is 100% dealing with either abnormally low offer acceptance or abnormally high employee turnover, or both. I also remember reading (on Reddit and such) from previous employees that the CEO was best described as "mercurial."

There were enough bright waving red flags that I did not bother to respond.

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FireBeyond ◴[] No.41873468[source]
Automattic's recruitment process is also... "involved":

> Write a thoughtful cover letter, and thorough responses to application questions.

I've seen these kind of application questions before. These are not from Automattic but comparable to what I saw from them: "Describe in detail, including the metrics, KPIs and reasoning you used when you launched your previous 0 to 1 product to ensure a good fit to your customer", "Describe in detail the biggest challenge and obstacles you've overcome getting a product to market, including both the technical aspects and business/people components, and be specific about the role you played in making sure these were surmountable" and so on.

> a Slack interview

This is actually novel and kinda cool, especially when it's one of the primary ways you might communicate day-to-day.

> 30-60 minutes Zoom interview

> Code Test for engineers - We expect the code test will take no more than a couple of days, and this is done asynchronously over the course of approximately a week

That's starting to add up.

> Trial "can last anywhere from a few hours to a few weeks. Most candidates complete the trial while working full-time and we know life is busy"

Better check your existing employment contract about moonlighting / outside employment (I am not saying I agree with such restrictions, but given how common they are, maybe this should be called out a little more....)

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throwaway48476 ◴[] No.41873624[source]
Sounds like canonical.
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1. duskwuff ◴[] No.41873680[source]
It's not quite as bad. At least A8C doesn't ask you to talk about what grades you got in high school.
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2. jasdfwasdf ◴[] No.41873914[source]
Canonical accepts my PR's but won't hire because I didn't graduate high school :-)
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3. FireBeyond ◴[] No.41874850[source]
Reminds me of the (sadly not apocryphal) stories:

"Required: 10 years of experience in X"

"Sorry, Joe, while your cover letter told a good story of how you created X 5 years ago, we are looking for people with more experience in X. Good luck on your search!"