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CodeWriter23 ◴[] No.41866710[source]
@WPEngine - fork Wordpress, rebrand yourself and the code. Setup a plugin / update hub like Wordpress.org and provide a pathway for your customers and devs to migrate. I recognize this is non-trivial. Ending an abusive relationship usually is.
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spiderfarmer ◴[] No.41866835[source]
They profit off Wordpress' brand for free. Maintaining a fork and building a new brand will be expensive. As much as I despise Matt's antics, there's not much to gain for WPEngine by forking it.

The best scenario for all parties is to burry the hatch and for Matt to step down.

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kergonath ◴[] No.41866902[source]
> They profit off Wordpress' brand for free.

What the hell are you on about? Wordpress is GPL. Are all Linux distro profiting off Linus’ brand?

There is a very simple thing you can do if you don’t want people to do this: use a different license. You cannot eat your cake and keep having it.

> Maintaining a fork and building a new brand will be expensive.

Publishing free software is a decision. You cannot come years later to say “no, actually you need to pay”, or “yeah, it’s free but not like that”.

The whole “WPE does not contribute” point is completely disingenuous and I cannot believe that people are still uttering it in good faith.

> The best scenario for all parties is to burry the hatch and for Matt to step down.

The best scenario is Wordpress going up in flames, Matt being utterly ridiculed for his dishonest behaviour and the whole thing serving as a cautionary tale.

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silverliver ◴[] No.41867212[source]
> What the hell are you on about? Wordpress is GPL. Are all Linux distro profiting off Linus’ brand? > There is a very simple thing you can do if you don’t want people to do this: use a different license. You cannot eat your cake and keep having it.

Not taking sides here, but the GPL did not include a trademark grant the last time I checked. In fact, treating copyright and trademark rights separately is a fairly well-established strategy in the open source world (e.g.Firefox and Ubuntu).

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1. kergonath ◴[] No.41868164{3}[source]
You are entirely right. But trademark has nothing to do with the “not contributing to the community” thing, whatever that means. Going after Wordpress-Engine with a trademark angle makes sense. Although:

1- I don’t think that would hold any water against “WPE”

2- trademark needs to be defended (in the US at least) and you cannot let things slide for 5 years and then claim infringement.

In any case, that’s not what happened. The trademark aspect was clearly an afterthought and is not the central point of the dispute.