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slg ◴[] No.41844068[source]
How is stuff like this not considered fraud? This seems much worse to me than Musk's usual Tesla lies in which he is predicting some future capability. At least there is an argument that Musk believed it those at the time he said them or that they were optimistically possible despite being impractical. This seems to be material misrepresentation of the viability of one of the company's core R&D projects that Musk claims "will be the biggest product ever".
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jsight ◴[] No.41844085[source]
Quite a few people at the event asked employees about this and were directly given the answer. It wasn't a secret.
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slg ◴[] No.41844105[source]
Were you at the event or do you have a source for that claim? I have seen video of one of the bots refusing to give an answer to that question and there were multiple articles in the wake of the event that couldn't come to any definitive conclusion so I'm skeptical of this claim of immediate transparency.
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1. jsight ◴[] No.41866707{3}[source]
I didn't go, but I saw the video that someone else linked. Also, during the event DirtyTesla was telling people that he was told they were remotely operated. I don't think he had insider knowledge, just answers from workers.

I did see that a few other people seemed to get more vague answers, notably including MKBHD. It seems strange that there wasn't consistent messaging.