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jcranmer ◴[17 Oct 24 04:57 UTC] No.41866538[source]▶

On the off-chance that Matt is doing the irresponsible thing here and still getting involved in social media discussions on this topic:

People don't like being involved in drama, and as we saw with the Freenode debacle, when it starts up, the usual first reaction is to try to chart a path that lets them avoid the drama as much as possible. But when you demand that those people take sides, and pursue a scorched earth policy against those who don't take your side... the side that's going to be picked isn't your side. There's just too much risk to taking your side.

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1. dylan604 ◴[17 Oct 24 04:58 UTC] No.41866541[source]▶

>>41866538 #

> People don't like being involved in drama,

Which is kind of a weird thing, as people sure do love to sit back with their popcorn and watch the drama. There's entire TV networks dedicated to banality just like this.

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2. jcranmer ◴[17 Oct 24 05:00 UTC] No.41866551[source]▶

>>41866541 (TP) #

Oh yeah, this is a fantastic thing to sit back and munch popcorn to. It's when the people involved are demanding that you stop munching the popcorn and start throwing knives at someone that the fun stops.

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3. labster ◴[17 Oct 24 05:10 UTC] No.41866600[source]▶

>>41866551 #

Yep, I’m browsing this topic with popcorn right now, with no skin in the game. It’s great fun!

Sorry if this is your livelihood, folks, but I can’t do anything to actually help. So I’ll just enjoy the fireworks and try to apply any lessons learned to other OSS communities.

4. Teever ◴[17 Oct 24 06:00 UTC] No.41866827[source]▶

>>41866541 (TP) #

It's not weird if you think about it.

How can you sit back and watch the drama if you're a part of it?

5. bad_user ◴[17 Oct 24 06:33 UTC] No.41866972[source]▶

>>41866541 (TP) #

Website owners and admins don't have the luxury of enjoying this particular drama, and they are the ones that matter.

6. icehawk ◴[17 Oct 24 07:16 UTC] No.41867184[source]▶

>>41866541 (TP) #

How is it weird that people who do not like being involved in drama do things where they are not involved in the drama.

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7. dylan604 ◴[17 Oct 24 14:32 UTC] No.41870050[source]▶

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Because it's a sad comment on human nature. We know what it's like to be part of the drama, and it's never a good thing. Yet we perversely enjoy sitting back watching people go through it. We like to say schadenfreude because it's a fun word to say for non native speakers, but it's not a good thing.

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