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238 points chmaynard | 9 comments | | HN request time: 0.394s | source | bottom
1. bullenweg ◴[] No.41866501[source]
Rumors are that another round of voluntary layoffs are coming to Automattic today. I am optimistic for the future of WordPress because it looks less and less likely to involve Matt. Matt has created the ideal conditions for a fork to succeed: WordPress (the software) is a fixture of the internet, it is never going away no matter how much Matt sabotages it but Matt's control over it is not a foregone conclusion given all Matt really controls is the brand. The name and leadership may change, but WordPress will live on.
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2. serial_dev ◴[] No.41866545[source]
I have been thinking about the alignment offer that Automattic has offered its employees. It’s hard for me to imagine any scenario at any company where I would not take the money and go. Six months of salary is a lot of money for just simply walking away.

To be completely honest, after seeing everything that has transpired, I would be worried that the offer is just a lie, a way to out the detractors. I’m wondering if that’s the reason less than 10% accepted the first offer.

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3. simonw ◴[] No.41866647[source]
If you're a PHP developer with expertise in WordPress Automattic is pretty much your version of FAANG - I can totally understand why people wouldn't want to trade even six months salary for never being able to work there again.
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4. pmontra ◴[] No.41866745{3}[source]
The 8% of the company left. IMHO it's not uncommon than the 8% of any company is willing to leave at any time because of any reason. They got a payoff so they anticipated their move. Some of them could have been even on Matt's side, some not.
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5. kstrauser ◴[] No.41866807{3}[source]
I doubt Automattic is going to tank any time soon. I’d still bet at least a few employees are pondering certain money in hand today vs being the last one to turn off the lights on the way out. If you thought Matt’s decisions and behavior were disastrous, maybe it’d be better to leave now and get one of the other good jobs while they’re still available.
6. jart ◴[] No.41866959[source]
No Roman general ever decimated his legion twice. Matt should go on vacation and beg Dries Buytaert to clean up his mess because he's the only guy talking sense. https://dri.es/solving-the-maker-taker-problem
7. 4hg4ufxhy ◴[] No.41867147{4}[source]
Matt even dunked on DHH that only 8% left automattic, while 30% left badecamp back when they banned politics. Nevermind the fact that DHHs offer was without a timelimit, allowing people to figure out their options. Also the job markets couldn't be more different.

However, I do think a fair amount of automattic employees do not want to leave since their benefits seem actually really nice. Not many companies provide constant pay regardless of your cost of living, so I commend them for that. It could be impossible to find an equivalent job for non US employees, so 6 months pay for leaving in this market is hardly worth it, unless like you said you had plans to do it anyway.

8. anon7000 ◴[] No.41867710[source]
Don’t worry, there is a signed contract in place!
9. FireBeyond ◴[] No.41871376[source]
> after seeing everything that has transpired, I would be worried that the offer is just a lie, a way to out the detractors

I expect that even Matt is aware that that is not an unreasonable assumption. Purportedly, via Bullenweg, an email went out yesterday re another offer, and it included this, from Matt:

> You have my word this deal will be honored. We will try to keep this quiet, so it won’t be used against us, but I still wanted to give Automatticians another window.

I mean that would have to be a first. "We're offering voluntary resignations with these benefits" followed by "and I promise we'll actually offer those benefits" - shows you how low trust seems to be at Automattic.