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572 points bookofjoe | 11 comments | | HN request time: 0.222s | source | bottom
1. buovjaga ◴[] No.41866367[source]
https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/16/24271632/amazon-kindle-c...

"The Colorsoft is based on E Ink’s Kaleido technology but uses an entirely new display stack for Kindles, all the way back to a newly designed oxide backplane that makes it easier for E Ink panel’s tiny bits of ink to move around quickly. The E Ink world has been working on similar tech for a while, and Amazon thinks it’s the key to making color work well. The Colorsoft has new LED pixels, and a new way of shining light through them individually to enhance colors. It’s also brighter than ever, to help the whole thing feel more vivid. Some of this tech also helped the new Paperwhite turn pages faster and easier, but it was designed to make Colorsoft work."

https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/devices/kindle-color-specs-...

"...Kindle Colorsoft Signature Edition packs a suite of innovations that make every hue and shade pop.

Those include custom formulated coatings between the display layers to enhance the color, a light guide with micro-deflectors to minimize stray light, and an ultra-thin coating in the display stack to improve optical performance. We built the display on an oxide backplane for sharper contrast, faster page turns, and better image quality."

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2. hmottestad ◴[] No.41867515[source]
That's really cool. I have a Boox device with a Kaleido 3 display and the colours are really muted. And the display is much much darker than a regular BW display. I use it as an info display so I can quickly see the weather forecast and when the next subway leaves.

I'm also impressed by the improvements to Gallery 3 displays used in the latests reMarkable. Gallery 3 has typically had much better colours, contrast and brightness when compared to Kaleido 3. Now I'm very curious for the reviews.

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3. wakeupcall ◴[] No.41868105[source]
I'm a happy owner of the latest rm pro, but I was curious about the boox. You're actually saying the boox is even more muted and darker?

In the rm pro the colors are still what I consider to be pretty muted. I had a laugh of what "red" looks like then I tried it. I don't care too much about it, for the purpose it's a great addition, but it's also darker than the rm2, which instead turned out to bother me a lot.

I can use the rm2 everywhere, but the rm3 is only saved, in my eyes, by some amount of backlight, which brings it closer, but still not exacly equal to the rm2. And by the way the rm2 is also, by far, not "white". If I consider rm2 to be some shade of ivory, the rm3 is downright gray.

Grayscale rendering on the rm2 display is also better. I do notice the dithering on the rm pro, and there's some color fringing in the ghosting.

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4. dotancohen ◴[] No.41868148{3}[source]
I use a Boox Note Air Plus 2, a colleague uses a Boox Note Air 3. My device is black and white, hers is in colour. The black and white device is excellent, I cannot remember the last time I turned on the backlight. The color device is so dark that it is unusable without the back light in normal office conditions. I have not seen it outdoors, however.
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5. wakeupcall ◴[] No.41868294{4}[source]
If that matches my experience, outdoors helps a bit, but not much. Overall you get better contrast and brightness, but the fact that the background is "gray" and not white becomes even more obvious.

That being said the rm3 is usable without backlight indoors if the place is decently lit (for example, in most offices), but requires some backlight otherwise. The rm2 is usable also in poorly lit conditions.

6. EA-3167 ◴[] No.41870910{4}[source]
I also have the Note Air 2, and really don't feel a need for color at this point. It's my go-to e-reader, I have a little remote and a stand for it so I can just kick back in a chair or in bed and read. I couldn't be happier with it, the battery life is still amazing even after a LOT of use too.

If I need color for some reason I have a phone, tablet, laptop etc that do the job better than e-ink presently can.

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7. dotancohen ◴[] No.41872133{5}[source]
Which remote do you use?
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8. EA-3167 ◴[] No.41873183{6}[source]
Just their standard one: https://shop.boox.com/products/onyx-boox-b-t-remoter?variant...

It's great for page flips, turning the backlight on and off, opening the top menu. Sadly it doesn't work for turning power off and on, but I suspect that can be fixed.

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9. dotancohen ◴[] No.41875130{7}[source]
Can that device scroll a web browser?
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10. EA-3167 ◴[] No.41881881{8}[source]
Yes it can, but not in a way I'd ever want to do... it's very slow and halting. I would stick to using this remote primarily as a way to read books without needing hands on the device, for web browsing I suspect there are better options I'm unaware of.
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11. dotancohen ◴[] No.41884368{9}[source]
Thank you.