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petesergeant ◴[] No.41862683[source]
> What he really wanted to close was the cultural gap between rich and poor

This sounds great!

> Then there is the financial aspect of TY: some parents just can’t afford it.

oh for fuck's sake

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alephnerd ◴[] No.41862852[source]
Yep! Good extracurriculars are expensive.

I remember taking part in Debate, MUN, XC, DECA, Wrestling, Quiz Bowl, Volunteering (NHS/CSF), and a bunch of Olympiads in HS and there was always a cost associated with participating (either a fee or the need to travel to the place hosting the EC).

Unsurprisingly, this meant ECs would skew upper middle class and upper class. Sadly, these same ECs are also blockers for college admissions.

I might get hate for this on HN, but this is why I support unweighted GPA, relative class ranking, and SAT/ACT for college admissions - sort of like what the UCs do. It's the least bad option out of the other options. Alternatively, going open entry with university admissions and then ramping up the difficulty with weedout classes is a good option as well.

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1. talideon ◴[] No.41864811[source]
That's not really how TY works in Ireland. It's about broadening horizons, not "extracurriculars".

Third level admissions have been done via a points system based on your top six Leaving Certificate (final second level exam) results for decades. It's an impersonal system, but at least fairer than most.